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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5432743" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>This stuff happens sometimes. Not every single encounter and definitely not every single round.</p><p></p><p>Are you being honest with yourself here?</p><p></p><p>Even if there are other difficulties in the way, a monster can usually get around them, especially with a Charge worse case scenario.</p><p></p><p>Even if the player of the Wizard wants to drop a good Storm Pillar, there are also times when the Defender is in the wrong spot, or the Wizard doesn't have time to drop a Storm Pillar (e.g. there are 3 foes bunched up and the Wizard's better option is to drop a 3x3 on them), or the Wizard knows that dropping it won't do anything other than waste an action. So, the monster doesn't go around it to attack the Cleric, the monster goes the opposite way and attacks the Avenger.</p><p></p><p>It definitely has its uses. One simple way is to drop it 1 square above a monster that doesn't have ranged attacks and have the other PCs shift back away from that monster. Course, that tactic only definitively works against Medium or Smaller monsters (that cannot range attack or teleport or phase under the floor). Large+ monsters can sometimes just squeeze under and away from it, taking no damage and often not being significantly slowed down or penalized at the right time by the squeeze.</p><p></p><p>But even here, if it is used against a standard monster, that means that the Wizard gave up his action in order to take away the action of a single foe. That's parity. And that's only when the monster cannot avoid the situation.</p><p></p><p>It's just not "ALL of the time" like you claim. That's an exaggeration. From my experience, it's not even often. Maybe once per encounter, the situation is just perfect that it sets up something good. There's even cases where it's more than once per encounter. But usually, the monster has an out of some type.</p><p></p><p>I've seen Storm Pillar used three rounds in a row to block a doorway where the players thought an extra tough monster was going to come out and fight them while they were already in combat. It turned out that the creature in the room was a non-combatant and the Wizard effectively wasted his actions for three rounds in a row which made the N+3 encounter they were in even tougher (they thought the tough monster was in the room, it turned out that they were already in combat with it).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5432743, member: 2011"] This stuff happens sometimes. Not every single encounter and definitely not every single round. Are you being honest with yourself here? Even if there are other difficulties in the way, a monster can usually get around them, especially with a Charge worse case scenario. Even if the player of the Wizard wants to drop a good Storm Pillar, there are also times when the Defender is in the wrong spot, or the Wizard doesn't have time to drop a Storm Pillar (e.g. there are 3 foes bunched up and the Wizard's better option is to drop a 3x3 on them), or the Wizard knows that dropping it won't do anything other than waste an action. So, the monster doesn't go around it to attack the Cleric, the monster goes the opposite way and attacks the Avenger. It definitely has its uses. One simple way is to drop it 1 square above a monster that doesn't have ranged attacks and have the other PCs shift back away from that monster. Course, that tactic only definitively works against Medium or Smaller monsters (that cannot range attack or teleport or phase under the floor). Large+ monsters can sometimes just squeeze under and away from it, taking no damage and often not being significantly slowed down or penalized at the right time by the squeeze. But even here, if it is used against a standard monster, that means that the Wizard gave up his action in order to take away the action of a single foe. That's parity. And that's only when the monster cannot avoid the situation. It's just not "ALL of the time" like you claim. That's an exaggeration. From my experience, it's not even often. Maybe once per encounter, the situation is just perfect that it sets up something good. There's even cases where it's more than once per encounter. But usually, the monster has an out of some type. I've seen Storm Pillar used three rounds in a row to block a doorway where the players thought an extra tough monster was going to come out and fight them while they were already in combat. It turned out that the creature in the room was a non-combatant and the Wizard effectively wasted his actions for three rounds in a row which made the N+3 encounter they were in even tougher (they thought the tough monster was in the room, it turned out that they were already in combat with it). [/QUOTE]
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