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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5432860" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Yes, this can be useful and powerful (note: dropped the extra F in your drawing).</p><p></p><p>It can also be a tactical error.</p><p></p><p>Not every encounter is one with just melee NPCs.</p><p></p><p>So while yes, the melee NPCs are limited to attacking the Fighter or taking damage, they still can attack him 3 on 1 without taking damage.</p><p></p><p>The NPCs can also have Controllers or Artillery that can also attack the Fighter.</p><p></p><p>So while the NPCs have all 5 NPCs attacking the Fighter (5 on 1), the PCs only have at most 4 PCs attacking any given NPC since the Wizard is maintaining the Storm Pillar. And, the PC who has a significant portion of area powers is busy maintaining SP.</p><p></p><p>5 on 1 vs. 4 on 1</p><p></p><p>Focus Fire for the enemies is stronger than that of the PCs.</p><p></p><p>Now, it does set up future favorable situations (such as an Avenger moving past SP on the left side, or the Fighter marking all of the foes and the Wizard then doing a 3 foe area effect the next round), but it's not necessarily all Win Win for the PCs. Having 5 NPCs attack the Fighter on a given round because they are mostly prevented from attacking other PCs can make an encounter swingy. And marks drop the moment the Fighter drops as well. Course, the Fighter could just be flooded as well with 5 melee NPCs swarming and flanking him where his mark only gives him a single extra attack.</p><p></p><p>Doing this a lot might suck through a lot of healing surges for the Fighter, especially with the increased damage of the latter MMs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5432860, member: 2011"] Yes, this can be useful and powerful (note: dropped the extra F in your drawing). It can also be a tactical error. Not every encounter is one with just melee NPCs. So while yes, the melee NPCs are limited to attacking the Fighter or taking damage, they still can attack him 3 on 1 without taking damage. The NPCs can also have Controllers or Artillery that can also attack the Fighter. So while the NPCs have all 5 NPCs attacking the Fighter (5 on 1), the PCs only have at most 4 PCs attacking any given NPC since the Wizard is maintaining the Storm Pillar. And, the PC who has a significant portion of area powers is busy maintaining SP. 5 on 1 vs. 4 on 1 Focus Fire for the enemies is stronger than that of the PCs. Now, it does set up future favorable situations (such as an Avenger moving past SP on the left side, or the Fighter marking all of the foes and the Wizard then doing a 3 foe area effect the next round), but it's not necessarily all Win Win for the PCs. Having 5 NPCs attack the Fighter on a given round because they are mostly prevented from attacking other PCs can make an encounter swingy. And marks drop the moment the Fighter drops as well. Course, the Fighter could just be flooded as well with 5 melee NPCs swarming and flanking him where his mark only gives him a single extra attack. Doing this a lot might suck through a lot of healing surges for the Fighter, especially with the increased damage of the latter MMs. [/QUOTE]
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