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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5432928" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>The Fighter will take it? Definitely?</p><p></p><p>Maybe, but the fight would have been 2 on 1 on the Fighter and 3 on 1 on the squishy without the control (and 5 PCs attacking, not 4).</p><p></p><p>Overall, this actually works better for the PCs than 5 on 1 on the Fighter in some cases. The Fighter takes 2 * 40% chance to hit * x damage or .8x average damage and the squishy takes 3 * 55% chance to hit * x damage or 1.65x average damage.</p><p></p><p>If the Fighter takes 5 * 40% chance to hit * x damage or 2x average damage in the 5 on 1 case, the likelihood of him going down is probably similar to the squishy going down with 1.65 average damage case. And, the combat is also swingier if the DM gets a few hot dice rolls for the NPCs.</p><p></p><p>You are correct that the PCs will take more overall average damage when 2 foes attack the Fighter and 3 attack a single squishy, but not all attacks against the squishier PCs will necessarily be against the same PC. And, it's sometimes better to use up squishy healing surges than Defender healing surges, especially if the Defender has used up a lot of healing surges in earlier encounters.</p><p></p><p>But, check it out for yourself. Ask your DM to 5 on 1 the Fighter every single encounter for a single gaming day and see how many encounters the group can make it through (especially with a Shaman leader). Spreading damage over most of the group is sometimes better than every foe attacking a single PC, even if it is the Defender.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5432928, member: 2011"] The Fighter will take it? Definitely? Maybe, but the fight would have been 2 on 1 on the Fighter and 3 on 1 on the squishy without the control (and 5 PCs attacking, not 4). Overall, this actually works better for the PCs than 5 on 1 on the Fighter in some cases. The Fighter takes 2 * 40% chance to hit * x damage or .8x average damage and the squishy takes 3 * 55% chance to hit * x damage or 1.65x average damage. If the Fighter takes 5 * 40% chance to hit * x damage or 2x average damage in the 5 on 1 case, the likelihood of him going down is probably similar to the squishy going down with 1.65 average damage case. And, the combat is also swingier if the DM gets a few hot dice rolls for the NPCs. You are correct that the PCs will take more overall average damage when 2 foes attack the Fighter and 3 attack a single squishy, but not all attacks against the squishier PCs will necessarily be against the same PC. And, it's sometimes better to use up squishy healing surges than Defender healing surges, especially if the Defender has used up a lot of healing surges in earlier encounters. But, check it out for yourself. Ask your DM to 5 on 1 the Fighter every single encounter for a single gaming day and see how many encounters the group can make it through (especially with a Shaman leader). Spreading damage over most of the group is sometimes better than every foe attacking a single PC, even if it is the Defender. [/QUOTE]
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