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<blockquote data-quote="Hardhead" data-source="post: 734242" data-attributes="member: 2844"><p>How can it be worse than that, though? We're not talking about game mechanics gaffs or miswordings, or even minor gramatical errors. We're talking about characters that change gender. We're talking about sentances that cut off for no apparent reason. </p><p></p><p>SS, I've noticed has had it's share of editing gaffs as well, the H/Ogre comes to mind for instance (is it a humanoid, a giant, or both? Different parts of the book say different things, and all those stances can be defended.)</p><p></p><p>I'm left wondering if WotC even <em>has</em> and editing department anymore. </p><p></p><p>Yes, editing is hard. That's why you're supposed to have multiple editors triple-check everything, not one guy that does it all.</p><p></p><p>I can forgive Sword and Fist because it was the first book like it ever published. They've had years to get it right by now, though. They should have the basics down pat, but the constant WotC layoffs have pretty well hampered that. It makes the product amateurish.</p><p></p><p>As an example, look at the Stronghold Builder's Guidebook.</p><p></p><p>The editor was Andy Colins. <em>Who was also one of two developers</em>. Not a writer, but still heavily into the product design. And it's a basic rule of publishing to never ever ever ever <em>ever</em> edit your own work, but that's what they've had to start doing over at WotC.</p><p></p><p>In Savage Species, it's worse. Jennifer Clarke Wilkes is one of the three writers. She's also the first editor listed in the contents (and it ain't an alphabetical list). That means the <em>writer</em> was also the <em>main editor</em>. </p><p></p><p>That's such a huge no-no, I can't believe even WotC, in it's current skeleton-crew incarnation is down to that level.</p><p></p><p>Compare that to the PHB, where none of the writers did any editing whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>I think the problem is clear: WotC doesn't really <em>have</em> any full-time editors anymore. That is not a good thing, and it leads to the current ameteur look of their products' writing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hardhead, post: 734242, member: 2844"] How can it be worse than that, though? We're not talking about game mechanics gaffs or miswordings, or even minor gramatical errors. We're talking about characters that change gender. We're talking about sentances that cut off for no apparent reason. SS, I've noticed has had it's share of editing gaffs as well, the H/Ogre comes to mind for instance (is it a humanoid, a giant, or both? Different parts of the book say different things, and all those stances can be defended.) I'm left wondering if WotC even [i]has[/i] and editing department anymore. Yes, editing is hard. That's why you're supposed to have multiple editors triple-check everything, not one guy that does it all. I can forgive Sword and Fist because it was the first book like it ever published. They've had years to get it right by now, though. They should have the basics down pat, but the constant WotC layoffs have pretty well hampered that. It makes the product amateurish. As an example, look at the Stronghold Builder's Guidebook. The editor was Andy Colins. [i]Who was also one of two developers[/i]. Not a writer, but still heavily into the product design. And it's a basic rule of publishing to never ever ever ever [i]ever[/i] edit your own work, but that's what they've had to start doing over at WotC. In Savage Species, it's worse. Jennifer Clarke Wilkes is one of the three writers. She's also the first editor listed in the contents (and it ain't an alphabetical list). That means the [i]writer[/i] was also the [i]main editor[/i]. That's such a huge no-no, I can't believe even WotC, in it's current skeleton-crew incarnation is down to that level. Compare that to the PHB, where none of the writers did any editing whatsoever. I think the problem is clear: WotC doesn't really [i]have[/i] any full-time editors anymore. That is not a good thing, and it leads to the current ameteur look of their products' writing. [/QUOTE]
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