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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8566058" data-attributes="member: 86653">No, just the standard definition of complexity.Really? I don't see any subraces in the PHB. You don't need to teach someone race-based level limits to play the game. You start at 1st level. Unless the rules apply at the beginning, there's no use teaching them at the beginning. Besides, removing level limits was one of the most common house rules.Right. So optional supplements presented optional NWP rules...nine years into the life of the edition. Not a very compelling argument.Right. If you get hit while casting, your spell is lost. So complicated.Sure, it's weird. It's what people call hybrid now. Take all the abilities of both classes. Roll all the hit dice, divide the sum by 2. Add CON mod if you get to. Divide your earned XP evenly between your classes. If you level in one class before the other, gain its abilities and roll your hit dice, divide by 2...add CON if you get to. Again, not complicated.That's an optional rule in the DMG. The PHB rules are simple. At zero hp, you die. Resting is easier, too. You get 1 hp per day of rest. After 30 days of rest, it becomes 5 hp per day. That's wildly simpler than short rests, long rests, so many HD per long rest recovered...how many minutes of fighting interrupts a long rest in 5E again?I know fractions are hard, but 3/2 isn't &quot;weird&quot;. Many of those are optional rules. Most of the rest were some of the most common things dumped in house rules. Shrug. But yeah, the combat matrix is a wild one. Props to WotC for going with ascending AC. But yeah, 5E combat is still more complicated.Mostly from ubiquity and willingness to learn. If someone's interested and willing, it doesn't matter how complex. If someone's uninterested and unwilling, it doesn't matter how simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8566058, member: 86653"] No, just the standard definition of complexity. Really? I don't see any subraces in the PHB. You don't need to teach someone race-based level limits to play the game. You start at 1st level. Unless the rules apply at the beginning, there's no use teaching them at the beginning. Besides, removing level limits was one of the most common house rules. Right. So optional supplements presented optional NWP rules...nine years into the life of the edition. Not a very compelling argument. Right. If you get hit while casting, your spell is lost. So complicated. Sure, it's weird. It's what people call hybrid now. Take all the abilities of both classes. Roll all the hit dice, divide the sum by 2. Add CON mod if you get to. Divide your earned XP evenly between your classes. If you level in one class before the other, gain its abilities and roll your hit dice, divide by 2...add CON if you get to. Again, not complicated. That's an optional rule in the DMG. The PHB rules are simple. At zero hp, you die. Resting is easier, too. You get 1 hp per day of rest. After 30 days of rest, it becomes 5 hp per day. That's wildly simpler than short rests, long rests, so many HD per long rest recovered...how many minutes of fighting interrupts a long rest in 5E again? I know fractions are hard, but 3/2 isn't "weird". Many of those are optional rules. Most of the rest were some of the most common things dumped in house rules. Shrug. But yeah, the combat matrix is a wild one. Props to WotC for going with ascending AC. But yeah, 5E combat is still more complicated. Mostly from ubiquity and willingness to learn. If someone's interested and willing, it doesn't matter how complex. If someone's uninterested and unwilling, it doesn't matter how simple. [/QUOTE]

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