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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8567008" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>It's not just the fact that arrays & pointbuy were added. 5e phb pg13 says:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"you can use the following scores instead: <strong>15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8.</strong>"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"You have <strong>27</strong> points to spend on your ability scores." </li> </ul><p></p><p>Compare that to 3.5dmg pg169</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"<strong>Standard Point Buy</strong>: All ability scores start at 8. Take <strong>25</strong> points to spread out among all abilities. For ability scores of 14 or lower, you buy additional points on a 1-for-1 basis. For ability scores higher than 14, it costs a little more (see the table below).This method allows for maximum customization, but you should expect each PC to have at least one really good score."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"<strong>Nonstandard Point Buy:</strong>Use the standard point buy method, except that the player has fewer or more points for buying scores, as shown on the table below."<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Low-powered campaign 15 points</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Challenging campaign 22 points</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tougher campaign 28 points</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">High-powered campaign 32 points</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Elite Array: </strong>Use the following scores, arranged as desired: <strong>15, 14, 13, 12, 10, and 8</strong>. These numbers (assuming they’re assigned to abilities in an appropriate way) produce characters with at least a decent score in every ability that’s important to the character’s class. This method is faster than the standard point buy method and is good for creating characters quickly. In fact, it’s the method we used to generate ability scores for the sample NPCs in Chapter 4 of this book.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Making the elite array into the default while getting rid of all other options is a serious shift towards <em>"insisting on the perfect character rather than accepting the challenge of making the best of what the game gives you." </em> as it was described <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-has-d-d-changed-over-the-decades.686433/post-8566405" target="_blank">earlier</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8567008, member: 93670"] It's not just the fact that arrays & pointbuy were added. 5e phb pg13 says: [LIST] [*]"you can use the following scores instead: [B]15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8.[/B]" [*]"You have [B]27[/B] points to spend on your ability scores." [/LIST] Compare that to 3.5dmg pg169 [LIST] [*]"[B]Standard Point Buy[/B]: All ability scores start at 8. Take [B]25[/B] points to spread out among all abilities. For ability scores of 14 or lower, you buy additional points on a 1-for-1 basis. For ability scores higher than 14, it costs a little more (see the table below).This method allows for maximum customization, but you should expect each PC to have at least one really good score." [*]"[B]Nonstandard Point Buy:[/B]Use the standard point buy method, except that the player has fewer or more points for buying scores, as shown on the table below." [LIST] [*]Low-powered campaign 15 points [*]Challenging campaign 22 points [*]Tougher campaign 28 points [*]High-powered campaign 32 points [/LIST] [*][B]Elite Array: [/B]Use the following scores, arranged as desired: [B]15, 14, 13, 12, 10, and 8[/B]. These numbers (assuming they’re assigned to abilities in an appropriate way) produce characters with at least a decent score in every ability that’s important to the character’s class. This method is faster than the standard point buy method and is good for creating characters quickly. In fact, it’s the method we used to generate ability scores for the sample NPCs in Chapter 4 of this book. [/LIST] Making the elite array into the default while getting rid of all other options is a serious shift towards [I]"insisting on the perfect character rather than accepting the challenge of making the best of what the game gives you." [/I] as it was described [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-has-d-d-changed-over-the-decades.686433/post-8566405']earlier[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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