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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8567801" data-attributes="member: 6799660">I gotta say, and I don't mean to be harsh but honestly I really do -- this thread has really made me lose faith in my fellow gamers. The condescension, the elitism, the onetruewayism, the 'I'm just stating my opinion, so my others calling me out for belittling another playstyle are being unreasonable'-ism. And if you think I'm speaking about the other side (whichever that may be), I think that's part of the problem. I'm well aware that I am not a mod, but then again I'm not telling anyone not to do anything, just that it is leaving me incredibly disheartened. What's interesting is that Gary and co. had rules (albeit inexact and supposedly often-changing) for just such stuff. It was David Wesley's Braunstein and I'm sure there would have been rights issues to just port it into D&D, but it's always made me wonder why it or something like it wasn't added to the game. Yes, Birthright eventually and Domain rules in BECMI covered some of that ground, but it certainly could have come earlier and more universally. I know Gary might have said something like 'I was expecting gamers to want to make that up themselves,' but he'd said that about game worlds as well but then supplied (a bit of) Greyhawk almost immediately once people started asking for it. It's just kinda surprising that a product like this didn't appear earlier in his tenure.</blockquote>