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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8570613" data-attributes="member: 6855114">And again, if a player get in a game and accept, then it is not unfair. It is totally and irremediably fair. It is the player that has been deceitful because that player entered a game that he/she did not agree with. That is hypocrisy at the highest degree. Did that player think he could change a rule or something to his/her advantage? Even more deceitful. As for unfair methods... We prefer the standard array in 5ed. We play 5ed with my two groups currently.However.Here is the method we use WHEN we roll.6 players.All roll 4d6 drop lowest once.I roll 4d6 drop lowest once.They choose the 6 highest attributes. And then place each attribute at random individually. If my roll is higher than one of the rolls, then use that roll in your lowest attribute.On the other hand, if I were to play 1ed. It would be6 players roll 3d6 once.I roll 3d6 once.Place the six attributes randomly.If my roll is higher than one of the rolls, then use that roll in your lowest attribute.This way, no one is inferior. Everyone is equal and these rolls will be the rolls for all new characters during the campaign. (If it is needed.)</blockquote>