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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8571153" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>When you want to use an example, at least use an example that can compare to the one given. Hyperbolic taken to extremes such as these only shows that a reasonable position/example will not suffice to make your argument reasonable, sound and logical.</p><p></p><p>An hyperbolic that can compare to a reasonable one, will on the other hand, prove exactly that your position is reasonable, sound and logical.</p><p></p><p>Position: We need laws to protect the environments. Sounds goods. But you might meet someone that will say that these laws restrict commerce and so and so... By using the hyperbolic that once the environment is destroyed because there are no laws (or weak laws) no commerce will occur. You are using an extreme example that does correlate to the situation.</p><p></p><p>An hyperbolic statement/argument can convey a good example if used with logic and if it really correlates. Here the example given is simply not usable as it does not relate to same thing. It does seem to be, but it isn't.</p><p></p><p>See the comments above to see why your example simply does not work. It is not that I do not understand your position, far from it. But your example simply isn't sturdy enough to prove your point correctly.</p><p></p><p>Comparing a life and death situation to a hobby style situation can not be compared.</p><p>My example of going to the casino was quite up to the point.</p><p>Rolling for stat and going to the casino to bet money are both on equal terms. You agree on the rules (or theirs) and you play. It seems that only if you lose that all of a sudden these rules are unfair. No it would be unfair if by some luck you win and the casino decides that the win ratio you had was not acceptable to them and simply changed the rules. Or that because the player is a woman, the casino can at its discretion, decide to cut the earning in half or not. An arbitrary ruling is unfair. A fixed rule, isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8571153, member: 6855114"] When you want to use an example, at least use an example that can compare to the one given. Hyperbolic taken to extremes such as these only shows that a reasonable position/example will not suffice to make your argument reasonable, sound and logical. An hyperbolic that can compare to a reasonable one, will on the other hand, prove exactly that your position is reasonable, sound and logical. Position: We need laws to protect the environments. Sounds goods. But you might meet someone that will say that these laws restrict commerce and so and so... By using the hyperbolic that once the environment is destroyed because there are no laws (or weak laws) no commerce will occur. You are using an extreme example that does correlate to the situation. An hyperbolic statement/argument can convey a good example if used with logic and if it really correlates. Here the example given is simply not usable as it does not relate to same thing. It does seem to be, but it isn't. See the comments above to see why your example simply does not work. It is not that I do not understand your position, far from it. But your example simply isn't sturdy enough to prove your point correctly. Comparing a life and death situation to a hobby style situation can not be compared. My example of going to the casino was quite up to the point. Rolling for stat and going to the casino to bet money are both on equal terms. You agree on the rules (or theirs) and you play. It seems that only if you lose that all of a sudden these rules are unfair. No it would be unfair if by some luck you win and the casino decides that the win ratio you had was not acceptable to them and simply changed the rules. Or that because the player is a woman, the casino can at its discretion, decide to cut the earning in half or not. An arbitrary ruling is unfair. A fixed rule, isn't. [/QUOTE]
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