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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8574346" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>And now I know where we are diverging with you. Were you to make that dwarf, I would simply tell you to make something else because the current campaign does not and will not go this way. </p><p></p><p>Sandbox with full impro is not the only campaign type. We are currently running OotA with one group. When the campaign is over where would that lead your dwarf? Nowhere because at the of OotA, it will be time to start a new campaign. </p><p></p><p>Character creation in my game is pretty much a group thing done with all players. We, like old style games, will discuss in advance where we will go. A full campaign, episodic adventures barely linked together, or a mix of both? But one thing is for sure, no background will ever have any bearing on the campaign world. The story always develop from the game and the actions and interactions of the characters. </p><p></p><p>If all players agree to your background, then yes it might be allowed. But it will be the decision of all the players involved, including me as the game is as much theirs as it is mine. All characters, background included must fit with each others.</p><p></p><p>The full sandbox is pretty rare in our little corner of the world and this is probably where our vision diverge and why I see (and many young DM in my area) a problem that does not exist for you. It would not even cross my mind to allow a player to make a character without my supervision. Verisimilitude and consistency in the game world is of utmost importance. For a one shot, no holds barred and it would be fine. But for a campaign in one of my gaming world... it would simply not happen.</p><p></p><p>So Ovinomancer, what you see as unproblematic is probably true for your gaming style. But for a.more traditional approach, it is quite different. It might also be a reason why OSR is gaining such a huge foothold in my area. Many are asking me if I know of OSR games made in French or if I could translate some. I still have a copy of my old D&D red and blue boxes in French but they want OSR... I gave them ways to make 5ed a bit more like BCEMI. It is not a perfect fit but it works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8574346, member: 6855114"] And now I know where we are diverging with you. Were you to make that dwarf, I would simply tell you to make something else because the current campaign does not and will not go this way. Sandbox with full impro is not the only campaign type. We are currently running OotA with one group. When the campaign is over where would that lead your dwarf? Nowhere because at the of OotA, it will be time to start a new campaign. Character creation in my game is pretty much a group thing done with all players. We, like old style games, will discuss in advance where we will go. A full campaign, episodic adventures barely linked together, or a mix of both? But one thing is for sure, no background will ever have any bearing on the campaign world. The story always develop from the game and the actions and interactions of the characters. If all players agree to your background, then yes it might be allowed. But it will be the decision of all the players involved, including me as the game is as much theirs as it is mine. All characters, background included must fit with each others. The full sandbox is pretty rare in our little corner of the world and this is probably where our vision diverge and why I see (and many young DM in my area) a problem that does not exist for you. It would not even cross my mind to allow a player to make a character without my supervision. Verisimilitude and consistency in the game world is of utmost importance. For a one shot, no holds barred and it would be fine. But for a campaign in one of my gaming world... it would simply not happen. So Ovinomancer, what you see as unproblematic is probably true for your gaming style. But for a.more traditional approach, it is quite different. It might also be a reason why OSR is gaining such a huge foothold in my area. Many are asking me if I know of OSR games made in French or if I could translate some. I still have a copy of my old D&D red and blue boxes in French but they want OSR... I gave them ways to make 5ed a bit more like BCEMI. It is not a perfect fit but it works. [/QUOTE]
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