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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8575342" data-attributes="member: 6701124">Some of the things haven't aged well (like the beginning of Thomas Covenant) and I don't think some were ever not cringe-worthy (the last several Lieber story) -- but not being the &quot;same, tired old tropes that have been trod, retrod and beaten into the ground&quot; is a hard burden for some old stuff to carry when it was one of the foundational works before it was really a trope.&nbsp; I wonder how many of the things we love today as fresh will be tropes in 40 years. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Interested to see what you think of Gentlemen Bastards! I liked one of his &quot;Tale of the Red Hats&quot; short stories but that is all of Lynch's stuff I've read so far.&nbsp; ( The short story might be inspirational for anyone looking to put guns into their D&amp;D).Rereading Vance (and the short story anthology in honor of him) now.&nbsp; There is a lot of stuff in the Cugel saga that I still think is really clever (even if Cugel isn't).&nbsp; &nbsp; The short story anthology has quite a few authors who were really inspired by him: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_the_Dying_Earth#Contents" target="_blank">Songs of the Dying Earth - Wikipedia</a> .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8575342, member: 6701124"] Some of the things haven't aged well (like the beginning of Thomas Covenant) and I don't think some were ever not cringe-worthy (the last several Lieber story) -- but not being the "same, tired old tropes that have been trod, retrod and beaten into the ground" is a hard burden for some old stuff to carry when it was one of the foundational works before it was really a trope. I wonder how many of the things we love today as fresh will be tropes in 40 years. :) Interested to see what you think of Gentlemen Bastards! I liked one of his "Tale of the Red Hats" short stories but that is all of Lynch's stuff I've read so far. ( The short story might be inspirational for anyone looking to put guns into their D&D). Rereading Vance (and the short story anthology in honor of him) now. There is a lot of stuff in the Cugel saga that I still think is really clever (even if Cugel isn't). The short story anthology has quite a few authors who were really inspired by him: [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_the_Dying_Earth#Contents']Songs of the Dying Earth - Wikipedia[/URL] . [/QUOTE]

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