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<blockquote data-quote="mserabian" data-source="post: 8576217" data-attributes="member: 32539">Obviously this is a discussion of D&amp;D on a D&amp;D board, but these ideas espoused by so many players of D&amp;D are always so puzzling to me... As a person whose first deep immersion into the hobby came from Champions (where death is generally not very likely) and then Call of Cthulhu (where death is pretty certain), my enjoyment of the game comes from playing the game, not staying alive. So in Champions you want to defeat the villain of the week, and in Call of Cthulhu you want to figure out the mystery!I think the changes in todays D&amp;D (and in todays D&amp;D players) is that they want to have these experiences and see these things as valuable (ie solve a mystery, thwart an evil doer's plan, etc) and in fact more fun than struggling to stay alive. and for clarity sake let me say clearly that I'm not saying&nbsp; you and others who hold your opinion don't value these things as well ...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mserabian, post: 8576217, member: 32539"] Obviously this is a discussion of D&D on a D&D board, but these ideas espoused by so many players of D&D are always so puzzling to me... As a person whose first deep immersion into the hobby came from Champions (where death is generally not very likely) and then Call of Cthulhu (where death is pretty certain), my enjoyment of the game comes from playing the game, not staying alive. So in Champions you want to defeat the villain of the week, and in Call of Cthulhu you want to figure out the mystery! I think the changes in todays D&D (and in todays D&D players) is that they want to have these experiences and see these things as valuable (ie solve a mystery, thwart an evil doer's plan, etc) and in fact more fun than struggling to stay alive. and for clarity sake let me say clearly that I'm not saying you and others who hold your opinion don't value these things as well ... [/QUOTE]

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