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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8584498" data-attributes="member: 63508">It's not about longer stories. It's about who was the subject of the story.The Hungarian definition of a cosign was about a location or setting.The Blackmoor CampaignJohn&quot;s Greyhawk CampaignLou Smith's Silver City campaignJohn, Mary, Big Jim, and Baseball Jim's Westland Campaign.Cotton, Stinky, Fatty, and Brooklyn's War of the World Campaign.The story became about an area or Setting That's why the individual stories of PCd could be stupid, silly, boring, or anticlimactic. They weren't the subject. However it made PCs just be barely more important than NPCs in the story.Incorrect.In 0e-2e the story was about the Area or Setting. Sam's often ran multiple parties or formed groups on the fly. That's why it was allowed to be so unfairly lethal and arbitrary.Yoyr PC didn't have the plot armor. The setting had the plot armor.I thing it changed with Dragonlance. Then it became about a consistent party. At this point players and DMs wanted to run narrative and story curves like the Hero's Journey and the Fairy Tale.So then mechanics move toward keeping PCs alive so they could both reach the climax and survive it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8584498, member: 63508"] It's not about longer stories. It's about who was the subject of the story. The Hungarian definition of a cosign was about a location or setting. The Blackmoor Campaign John"s Greyhawk Campaign Lou Smith's Silver City campaign John, Mary, Big Jim, and Baseball Jim's Westland Campaign. Cotton, Stinky, Fatty, and Brooklyn's War of the World Campaign. The story became about an area or Setting That's why the individual stories of PCd could be stupid, silly, boring, or anticlimactic. They weren't the subject. However it made PCs just be barely more important than NPCs in the story. Incorrect. In 0e-2e the story was about the Area or Setting. Sam's often ran multiple parties or formed groups on the fly. [B]That's why it was allowed to be so unfairly lethal and arbitrary.[/B] Yoyr PC didn't have the plot armor. [B]The setting had the plot armor[/B]. I thing it changed with Dragonlance. Then it became about a consistent party. At this point players and DMs wanted to run narrative and story curves like the Hero's Journey and the Fairy Tale. So then mechanics move toward keeping PCs alive so they could both reach the climax and survive it. [/QUOTE]

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