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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8586689" data-attributes="member: 6799660">Yes, this much is obvious. You have found yourself without gamers who meet your expectations, and you are putting a significant amount of weight of explanation (I will hold off on the term blame) on the rules that exist in the game. There's really not much left to say other than I do not think your experience is representative; that I hope you find that for which you are looking; and that I hope you understand how your voicing of your position can come off as akin to those 'back in my days, we did things stronger/smarter/on-hard-mode and all around better than these whippersnappers!' linethat everyone has heard a million times from some older acquaintance about just about anything (and is rarely a good look).Okay, so we started around the same time and with the same context (there were older gamers nearby that still played in an older fashion). I disagree that the modern gameplay is 'just brute force it,' or that players won't bypass opponents (I think all WotC-era editions grant experience for opponents you defeat by circumventing, just as much as if you defeat them in combat). Quick question, you never befriended (or at least allied with) enemies bitd? That was one of the options on the reaction table, and we always considered that an absolute windfall if we could ally with the goblins to go roll the orcs for their moneys or the like (of course the inevitable betrayal would be equally as harrowing).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 8586689, member: 6799660"] Yes, this much is obvious. You have found yourself without gamers who meet your expectations, and you are putting a significant amount of weight of explanation (I will hold off on the term blame) on the rules that exist in the game. There's really not much left to say other than I do not think your experience is representative; that I hope you find that for which you are looking; and that I hope you understand how your voicing of your position can come off as akin to those [I]'back in my days, we did things stronger/smarter/on-hard-mode and all around better than these whippersnappers!'[/I] linethat everyone has heard a million times from some older acquaintance about just about anything (and is rarely a good look). Okay, so we started around the same time and with the same context (there were older gamers nearby that still played in an older fashion). I disagree that the modern gameplay is 'just brute force it,' or that players won't bypass opponents (I think all WotC-era editions grant experience for opponents you defeat by circumventing, just as much as if you defeat them in combat). Quick question, you never befriended (or at least allied with) enemies bitd? That was one of the options on the reaction table, and we always considered that an absolute windfall if we could ally with the goblins to go roll the orcs for their moneys or the like (of course the inevitable betrayal would be equally as harrowing). [/QUOTE]

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