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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8586861" data-attributes="member: 7635">This probably came back to DM experience, but I played a high level single class thief in 2e (16th level, namesake of this account) and I found that after a while, most of my class functions were severely outclassed by spells and magic items. Cloaks and boots of elvenkind, rings of invisibility, chimes of opening, knock, detect traps, spider climb etc all could make thief skills redundant. And backstab rarely did enough damage to harm a foe of suitable challenges, even if you could hit it at all! (No finesse weapons, and thieves weren't likely to have high strength). I'm sure in a white room PvP scenario, a fighter or a thief could kill a magic user, but in practical adventuring the only thing a thief had going for them was they allowed a caster to not prep as many knock or invisibility spells. The best thing you could do with a thief was multi-class it with fighter (to get better backstabs and survival) or magic user (so that your magic came online at the time your thief skills become redundant. It's little surprise that thief is the class every race could multiclass combo with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8586861, member: 7635"] This probably came back to DM experience, but I played a high level single class thief in 2e (16th level, namesake of this account) and I found that after a while, most of my class functions were severely outclassed by spells and magic items. Cloaks and boots of elvenkind, rings of invisibility, chimes of opening, knock, detect traps, spider climb etc all could make thief skills redundant. And backstab rarely did enough damage to harm a foe of suitable challenges, even if you could hit it at all! (No finesse weapons, and thieves weren't likely to have high strength). I'm sure in a white room PvP scenario, a fighter or a thief could kill a magic user, but in practical adventuring the only thing a thief had going for them was they allowed a caster to not prep as many knock or invisibility spells. The best thing you could do with a thief was multi-class it with fighter (to get better backstabs and survival) or magic user (so that your magic came online at the time your thief skills become redundant. It's little surprise that thief is the class every race could multiclass combo with. [/QUOTE]

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