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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8594721" data-attributes="member: 42582">I recall using the PCs accompany the caravan as guards trope once, in my second year of GMing. The PCs were 5th or 6th level. And the reward had nothing to do with it - the players had their PCs accept the task because it was obviously the adventure that I had prepared. I don't remember what the promised reward was. But I'm pretty confident that the promise of an extra 100 gp, or even 1,000 gp, each wouldn't have made any difference!Last time I checked, the 5e D&D rulebooks had gods mentioned in them, a whole appendix worth!Whether or not clerics need to worship gods is neither here nor there: I played AD&D games where there was no cleric PC, and was able to frame situations and generate interesting play without needing to boss the players around with threats from patron gods. As I posted, that was considered bad play back in 1990, at least among me and my friends.To me, what you seem to be lamenting is the lack of techniques like gp-as-reward-system or gods-as-quest-givers-that-players-can't-refuse, which in some circumstances might help paper over the fact that the players don't care about the GM's fiction. I choose the words "paper over" deliberately - because if players, for whatever reason, think the situation the GM is serving up is uninteresting, then there will be issues and dangling gold or gods in front of the PCs won't change that! If the campaign is boring at level N, it will probably still be boring at level N+1, or at level N but having spent 100 gp on a healing potion, etc.Hence why my advice to new GMs, first and foremost, is always use your best material and present interesting situations.</blockquote>

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