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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8607907" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Yeah, you are, and you're doing it here assuming that what's being discussed is the same thing you did once upon a time and just must be more polished now. Given how badly you're misstating and misunderstanding what is being said, though, this isn't a matter of refinement, but a misunderstanding of a fundamental difference. And, so, binning that fundamental difference in under the things you think you understand is dismissing that fundamental difference. So far, you seem to be locked into the same frame I once had -- that you have experience with games, and know stuff, so there can't be that big of a difference; it must therefore be someone just overexaggerating something that you already know. I was wrong when I though that.</p><p></p><p>I don't take them for attacks. I take them for what I've said -- an ignorance about the topic leading to statements that are wrong. Why would I consider that an attack? It only becomes an attack if you do get it and are intentionally misrepresenting things. I don't think this is true.</p><p></p><p>They are dismissive. You've decided to bin everything that you don't already like into one bin and assumed they're all pretty much alike. They aren't. But you've chosen to not engage in examining this. When someone engages a new thing and starts from a position of "I already understand this, but aren't up with maybe the most current refinements, tell me what's different," there's already a dismissal that there's really something new here to learn. You need to forget what you think you know and what you do know and try to fully engage with an open mind of "okay, people are saying there's something here and it works and it isn't what I assumed -- why don't I start there with the assumption that this stuff does work and try to figure out how that's true?" That was my turning thought, perhaps it will be useful for you as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8607907, member: 16814"] Yeah, you are, and you're doing it here assuming that what's being discussed is the same thing you did once upon a time and just must be more polished now. Given how badly you're misstating and misunderstanding what is being said, though, this isn't a matter of refinement, but a misunderstanding of a fundamental difference. And, so, binning that fundamental difference in under the things you think you understand is dismissing that fundamental difference. So far, you seem to be locked into the same frame I once had -- that you have experience with games, and know stuff, so there can't be that big of a difference; it must therefore be someone just overexaggerating something that you already know. I was wrong when I though that. I don't take them for attacks. I take them for what I've said -- an ignorance about the topic leading to statements that are wrong. Why would I consider that an attack? It only becomes an attack if you do get it and are intentionally misrepresenting things. I don't think this is true. They are dismissive. You've decided to bin everything that you don't already like into one bin and assumed they're all pretty much alike. They aren't. But you've chosen to not engage in examining this. When someone engages a new thing and starts from a position of "I already understand this, but aren't up with maybe the most current refinements, tell me what's different," there's already a dismissal that there's really something new here to learn. You need to forget what you think you know and what you do know and try to fully engage with an open mind of "okay, people are saying there's something here and it works and it isn't what I assumed -- why don't I start there with the assumption that this stuff does work and try to figure out how that's true?" That was my turning thought, perhaps it will be useful for you as well. [/QUOTE]
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