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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8607960" data-attributes="member: 6855114">And yet, from my point of view I am not dismissive but you almost are. Here on this forum and even in this very thread, there are some that have tried the most recent incarnation of the free form RPG and have seen the same as I, twenty years ago. This makes me think that your positive experience is in the minority and not the norm. Again, I do not claim perfect knowledge of free form and it's many variations. Nor would I claim perfect knowledge of D&D and all its variations. What I claim is that what I have seen is people new to RPGs pushing the "I win" buttons while experienced gamers in an other genre (me and a friend) were actually trying to play the game within its intention, cooperative story telling. Yes again a reduction but see it as a way to better explain my limited view of the concept.If these problems had disappeared with new iterations of the games, I would be inclined to believe that your experience is universal in that genre. Yet, others have seen the same as I in recent time. And where is the dismissal you claim so high that I am doing? I simply tell you what have seen and strangely, I am dismissive because my knowledge is outdated? Well, good sir, if you do not care to explain the finer points of your game, why should I try to learn when what I have seen is exactly what I have said and that others have seen it too with more recent editions? Tell me.  I really wish to learn and not stay in the dark because you are offended. If I offended you, I am sorry. But do tell me, do not chastise me for not being up to date.</blockquote>

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