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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8608609" data-attributes="member: 29398">The main reason I've changed campaigns the few times that I have is that the known mistakes simply became too much.&nbsp; Once in a while I'll do rules revisions mid-campaign, but almost exclusively dealing with things that haven't yet arisen in the campaign.Part of it is that as player I expect a precedent-based model; that if something is ruled to work a certain way once it will work that way every time henceforth.&nbsp; Otherwise there's neither consistency nor adherence to that campaign's own tradition.&nbsp; As DM, I use a precedent-based model for the same reasons.Assuming they want to be a part of that building process.I don't want anything to do with building my car.&nbsp; I just want to drive the thing, and expect it to work properly when I do.&nbsp; Some (quite a few IME) players feel the same about the game: they just want to play it.You can't be blamed for that, and nor should you - that's the point!Thing is, I'm not the one having those problems - or seeing them as problems, at any rate.&nbsp; I expect the players to push the boundaries and look for advantages as I see this as a part of normal play as designed; and I expect the DM to push back and make rulings that are for the good of the game as a whole rather than for the good of just this moment or just this character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8608609, member: 29398"] The main reason I've changed campaigns the few times that I have is that the known mistakes simply became too much. Once in a while I'll do rules revisions mid-campaign, but almost exclusively dealing with things that haven't yet arisen in the campaign. Part of it is that as player I expect a precedent-based model; that if something is ruled to work a certain way once it will work that way every time henceforth. Otherwise there's neither consistency nor adherence to that campaign's own tradition. As DM, I use a precedent-based model for the same reasons. Assuming they want to be a part of that building process. I don't want anything to do with building my car. I just want to drive the thing, and expect it to work properly when I do. Some (quite a few IME) players feel the same about the game: they just want to play it. You can't be blamed for that, and nor should you - that's the point! Thing is, I'm not the one having those problems - or seeing them as problems, at any rate. I expect the players to push the boundaries and look for advantages as I see this as a part of normal play as designed; and I expect the DM to push back and make rulings that are for the good of the game as a whole rather than for the good of just this moment or just this character. [/QUOTE]

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