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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8609627" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>My first reply is the same as Campbell's - when I, as a player, establish the requirements of the faith as I see it, I <em>am</em> establishing a more universal thing across all worshippers.</p><p></p><p>There's also, of course, the possibility of various expectations across different worshippers (certainly a thing in the European paganism that tends to have inspired FRPG approaches, and also a thing in European Christianity before the big pushes for uniformity beginning around the eleventh century). This is also what [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] suggested upthread.</p><p></p><p>For instance, the first time an extended rest was taken in my 4e campaign, the player of the paladin of the Raven Queen announced that he sleeps standing up (because only the dead lie horizontal). No one quibbled - but nor did the players of the other Raven Queen devotees take a similar view about their PCs, who slept in the normal fashion. When decisions about what the Raven Queen requires have been more high-stakes, I expect the players to work it out, perhaps in character - it's not as if its unrealistic that the adherents of a single religion might disagree about what its demands are!</p><p></p><p>This makes no sense to me. If things aren't defined ahead of time, then there is no risk of the sort of mistake you describe, which can only come about if someone - presumably the GM - decides these setting elements ahead of time.</p><p></p><p>As I posted, I generally expect the GM to provide me the latitude I would grant. Obviously granting that latitude precludes the sort of thing you're describing here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8609627, member: 42582"] My first reply is the same as Campbell's - when I, as a player, establish the requirements of the faith as I see it, I [i]am[/i] establishing a more universal thing across all worshippers. There's also, of course, the possibility of various expectations across different worshippers (certainly a thing in the European paganism that tends to have inspired FRPG approaches, and also a thing in European Christianity before the big pushes for uniformity beginning around the eleventh century). This is also what [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] suggested upthread. For instance, the first time an extended rest was taken in my 4e campaign, the player of the paladin of the Raven Queen announced that he sleeps standing up (because only the dead lie horizontal). No one quibbled - but nor did the players of the other Raven Queen devotees take a similar view about their PCs, who slept in the normal fashion. When decisions about what the Raven Queen requires have been more high-stakes, I expect the players to work it out, perhaps in character - it's not as if its unrealistic that the adherents of a single religion might disagree about what its demands are! This makes no sense to me. If things aren't defined ahead of time, then there is no risk of the sort of mistake you describe, which can only come about if someone - presumably the GM - decides these setting elements ahead of time. As I posted, I generally expect the GM to provide me the latitude I would grant. Obviously granting that latitude precludes the sort of thing you're describing here. [/QUOTE]
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