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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7868687" data-attributes="member: 6895991">Falling prone is something different while walking or flying, especially by a trip maneuver. When you walk and stumble than gravity itself makes you fall prone - after that you try to stand up again.When you intercept a winged creatures wing movement then yes, as long as you intercept its means to keep itself in the air then it falls, but to keep that up while e.g. grappling it you fall along.Simply delivering a midair leg swipe maneuver will not cause the wings to stop working.But if you are subject to a fly spell, as long as your concentration on the spell is not broken you will not fall. Your magic is working whether your position is horizontal vertical or in any direction also a forced change of that position in the air does not change the fact that a fly spell is the source of you flying.So what is a trip in midflight to you if you are under the effect of a fly spell? I would say the best "trip"in the case of a fly spell is to deliver so much damage that the concentration is broken, or for a winged creature to paralyze his wing movement somehow.So never ever would a e.g. battlemasters special maneuver trip aka a leg swipe or a tackle cause somebody even to fall over like on ground if he is flying by spell and if winged it still is arguable, since even if brought out of balance as soon as falling a few meters the fall can be easily caught.Every other ruling is Rulius Magistrarius like dual-wielding-lance-charge on a horse using two attack rolls or similar silly stuff by interpreting a loose wording in RAW to justify totally irrational things.Edit official citing of you "If a flying creature is knocked prone.."What I am debating is not even the official rule but this statement, I debate that it is possible to knock a flying creature "prone" at all unless you paralyse it or make it fall unconscious or similar things, a trip maneuver surely can be applied but with every human rationale it will have not the same effect as on ground.</blockquote>

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