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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BullMarkOne" data-source="post: 3333754" data-attributes="member: 30409">Sometimes I'm cheap and I recycle monsters. But only because I've completely redesigned them (or recycled something else into them).Ogres pretty much always get to be recycled as male hagspawn (female hagspawn are hags of course). As such no two ogres ever really end up alike. Templates, and class levels abound. I mess with the stat assignment a lot too. I'm not sure if I've ever actually used a 'base' ogre. They certainly haven't existed as such in any setting I've ever produced.My last campaign setting did include an extinct race of Ogres. They were a sort of ancient Greek'ish empire, which had long since been wiped out by younger races. Many of the more monstrous humanoid races (minotaurs, goat men &c) were descendants of the 'Ogres.' In appearance 'ogres' were nearly identical to humans, only slightly more physically developed, better looking, and having six fingers and toes (per hand and foot respectively). Polydactyl humans were considered to have ogre blood. Statistically Ogres were humans, with a +1 to Strength, Constitution, and Charimsa. The only presence that ogre's maintained in campaign era was as undead, normally shadows or wights.</blockquote>