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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4537156" data-attributes="member: 66434">This is very spot on.    I would say that the PC's have usually been above the common person in stats all along. Considering that the average commoner has stats that are well.......average, and most PC's have at least a couple stats that are well above average, that this would put the PC into hero candidate status already.  There may be commoners out there who are exceptional in some way and they have the potential to be heroes too. Heroes do tend to engage in dangerous activities and sometimes pay the ultimate price of heroism. If a 1st level PC is so far above any commoner, how are new heroes made?  I prefer more down to earth PC's at 1st level. The kind of people that you can imagine that may have lived quiet normal lives until those goblins came across the border and killed thier family in the night. At 1st level these are normal folk, for the most part who have decided to take thier own path and do what needs doing. Potential heroes who have yet to distinguish themselves is how I see them.  4E PC's appearing on the scene with not only exceptional stats, but suites of superpowers ready for action completly disconnects them from the rest of the world and makes them feel fabricated. Its hard to look at a 4E PC and imagine that this person may have been an apprentice stablehand a short time ago.  The four color comic hero approach may work for some campaign styles but it doesn't fit my version of classic fantasy. Full fledged heroes are easy to introduce to a campaign by beginning at a higher level.</blockquote>

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