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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8949621" data-attributes="member: 86653">The OP is a good list, but more than half of them are already how default Dark Sun works. Most of what's quoted below isn't a change at all.That is the default of Athas outside of the city-states. Lots of tribes live out in the wastes. This is established in the fiction and the game products.That has been the default assumption since the original boxed set was published. Kalak died in the first novel and was killed off in the first non-core box product released for Dark Sun. But they generally advance the timeline to have Tithian as the king of Tyr. But there's still all kinds of chaos in that city-state.That's exactly how it works in the fiction. You can cast slow and carefully to preserve nature or cast fast and recklessly to defile nature.The preservers in the fiction and game products do that with knowledge of history. The elemental clerics and druids are more focused on the restoration of nature.There are several game products that expand the setting beyond the Tablelands.There are still gods in Athas. They just don't have active, living worshipers. In the first novel some of the characters find a long-abandoned church under Tyr that is guarded by spirits of dead clerics and paladins of a long-forgotten god. But turning them into an active force to antagonize the sorcerer-kings would be a neat idea.That's exactly how sorcerer-kings work in baseline Dark Sun. Always have. The templars are the clerics of the sorcerer-kings, in 2E parlance, the priests. Complete with cleric class, spell progression, etc.There is still rain on Athas. It's just rare. You don't get all the green on the maps without rain and/or moisture of some kind. Rain is mentioned several times in the first novel and in various game products. Though the Sea of Silt is not an ocean. That would be an interesting if thematically odd choice.</blockquote>

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