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<blockquote data-quote="RingXero" data-source="post: 245557" data-attributes="member: 109"><p>I seem to be in a position of <em>possibly</em> agreeing with the outcome.</p><p></p><p>As I see it, we have a slave society within a LN aligned city, the owner of this establishment is LE. The 'bill' is being taken care of by another party/group, and PC probably has an implied 'cart blanche'. The owner of course wants as much money as possible, he cannot legaly charge for what was not asked for, or mark up his prices, but he can bend the limits as much as he wants.</p><p></p><p>The PC in question expressed the interest of being alone. This does not make alot of profit for the owner, services rendered is where the profits comes from. The owner then mentioned the possibility of 'making sure' the slave does not relate to anyone what went on inside the room. the PC then agrees. ( the PC I believe could realistically be initially unaware of how the owner 'makes sure' they stay quite)</p><p></p><p>Why isn't it a blind/mute slave? Unknown, but the following factors have to be considered. A slave is expensive, a blind/mute slave is more so. They have limited usefullness. They have to be taken care of. Only a large establishment, with many people requesting them could keep them on staff. In a magical society, blind/mute doesn't assure anything. There could be mind wipe spells but they in turn wouldn't garauntee silence, as a more powerfull version would break it. </p><p></p><p>In a society where death resurection spells are unknown, the killing of the slave would be considerd proof against rumor mongoring.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not see a LN society looking down on the killing of slaves at all. Remember, a slavery society by its very nature considers slaves merely property. Wanton killing of a slave, may be called into question, but this is a service rendered situation. The client would have to basically 'buy' the slave, and then pay for the killing and disposal service. A barely trained slave would be used most likely. Slavery is different than an 'Indentured Servent'. The former implies complete controll, ownership, and no real way out. The latter is abit better on those issues though.</p><p></p><p>This could result in a long discussion on what alignment can aprove of slavery, and that is really a personal choice of the DM and how they use/view alignment. Would the above situation cause a shift for the PC? initially, no, but after they became aware, as has been suggested, a good player most likely should atone <strong>IF</strong> the character does not believe completely with slavery, or does not condone the killing of slaves/sentients in a non-defensive action.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RX</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RingXero, post: 245557, member: 109"] I seem to be in a position of [I]possibly[/I] agreeing with the outcome. As I see it, we have a slave society within a LN aligned city, the owner of this establishment is LE. The 'bill' is being taken care of by another party/group, and PC probably has an implied 'cart blanche'. The owner of course wants as much money as possible, he cannot legaly charge for what was not asked for, or mark up his prices, but he can bend the limits as much as he wants. The PC in question expressed the interest of being alone. This does not make alot of profit for the owner, services rendered is where the profits comes from. The owner then mentioned the possibility of 'making sure' the slave does not relate to anyone what went on inside the room. the PC then agrees. ( the PC I believe could realistically be initially unaware of how the owner 'makes sure' they stay quite) Why isn't it a blind/mute slave? Unknown, but the following factors have to be considered. A slave is expensive, a blind/mute slave is more so. They have limited usefullness. They have to be taken care of. Only a large establishment, with many people requesting them could keep them on staff. In a magical society, blind/mute doesn't assure anything. There could be mind wipe spells but they in turn wouldn't garauntee silence, as a more powerfull version would break it. In a society where death resurection spells are unknown, the killing of the slave would be considerd proof against rumor mongoring. I do not see a LN society looking down on the killing of slaves at all. Remember, a slavery society by its very nature considers slaves merely property. Wanton killing of a slave, may be called into question, but this is a service rendered situation. The client would have to basically 'buy' the slave, and then pay for the killing and disposal service. A barely trained slave would be used most likely. Slavery is different than an 'Indentured Servent'. The former implies complete controll, ownership, and no real way out. The latter is abit better on those issues though. This could result in a long discussion on what alignment can aprove of slavery, and that is really a personal choice of the DM and how they use/view alignment. Would the above situation cause a shift for the PC? initially, no, but after they became aware, as has been suggested, a good player most likely should atone [B]IF[/B] the character does not believe completely with slavery, or does not condone the killing of slaves/sentients in a non-defensive action. RX [/QUOTE]
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