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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7021820" data-attributes="member: 4937">I would guess the idea is that the pillars of gameplay can be sliced, so that regardless of which pillar you are playing, and which class you are playing, you can expect your class to be able to contribute to that pillar in a (somewhat) unique way.&nbsp;&nbsp; So your character has single target high damage ranged combat, keen perception, and detect untruths and a different character has area effect attacks, know lore, and chutpah, and another character has powerful melee attacks, break stuff, and intimidation.&nbsp; Depending on the 'tactical situation' in each pillar, each character's silo could shine.That's a bit of a myth.&nbsp; When Thieves hit 11th level, M-U's hit 10th.&nbsp; In typical games, you never had a separation of more than 1 HD with M-U's, and no more than about 2HD with Paladins and Barbarians.&nbsp; It gets slightly better after that, and you might get separation of up to 3HD later on, but in 1e after name level the benefits of increasing level were very small for non-casters (and thieves especially).&nbsp; Because everything improved so slowly for thieves, and because they had no irreplaceable utility, there was never any real balance between thieves and other classes after about 2nd level.&nbsp;&nbsp; That point where you were 2nd level and everyone else was for maybe one session 1st level was the best it ever got.&nbsp; The longer the game went, the worse the class became.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7021820, member: 4937"] I would guess the idea is that the pillars of gameplay can be sliced, so that regardless of which pillar you are playing, and which class you are playing, you can expect your class to be able to contribute to that pillar in a (somewhat) unique way. So your character has single target high damage ranged combat, keen perception, and detect untruths and a different character has area effect attacks, know lore, and chutpah, and another character has powerful melee attacks, break stuff, and intimidation. Depending on the 'tactical situation' in each pillar, each character's silo could shine. That's a bit of a myth. When Thieves hit 11th level, M-U's hit 10th. In typical games, you never had a separation of more than 1 HD with M-U's, and no more than about 2HD with Paladins and Barbarians. It gets slightly better after that, and you might get separation of up to 3HD later on, but in 1e after name level the benefits of increasing level were very small for non-casters (and thieves especially). Because everything improved so slowly for thieves, and because they had no irreplaceable utility, there was never any real balance between thieves and other classes after about 2nd level. That point where you were 2nd level and everyone else was for maybe one session 1st level was the best it ever got. The longer the game went, the worse the class became. [/QUOTE]

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