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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6103831" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I've sort of given up on this thread but I didn't see this one before.  That is pretty preposterous right there.  The archetype of the implacable, single-minded, ideologically-driven zealot who hunts his prey to the ends of the earth has deep roots in popular culture.  The Crow, The Punisher...I would say Roland Deschain fits the bill of an Avenger probably better than Paladin.  A long term player of mine has basically been playing this archetype forever and no edition captured it as well as 4e.  The idea that it had no thematic backing and was just a mechanical contrivance of 4e to "fit a power source/role roster" really has no merit.</p></blockquote><p></p>