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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6104180" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Actually the only figure of literature I've ever heard of being modeled by the classic D&D cleric is Bishop Turpin. In the real world there is at least a theory that some order of religious knights were restricted to using maces, but actually I've never seen anything which confirms this was actually true or that this was at all common. Certainly such people were not anything like D&D clerics, they weren't priests, they were soldiers pure and simple. The priests among them probably weren't out in the field, and if they were they were probably officers.</p><p></p><p>There really just isn't any but the thinnest literary or real world justification for that class, it exists utterly for gamist reasons and people have been saying so for ages. If it had been built on literary tradition it would have been a wonder-worker type, using magic and divine grace to survive and fight, and probably not had any weapon or armor at all. Again, ironically, this type of character only became really possible in 4e, and is quite well represented by the Invoker class (though you can get a somewhat similar effect using a 'laser cleric' build). </p><p></p><p>Honestly I think by relaxing a lot of the locked-in class traditionalism and adding some classes to cover more literary and less D&D-centric concepts 4e has better support for archetypes than previous editions in general.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6104180, member: 82106"] Actually the only figure of literature I've ever heard of being modeled by the classic D&D cleric is Bishop Turpin. In the real world there is at least a theory that some order of religious knights were restricted to using maces, but actually I've never seen anything which confirms this was actually true or that this was at all common. Certainly such people were not anything like D&D clerics, they weren't priests, they were soldiers pure and simple. The priests among them probably weren't out in the field, and if they were they were probably officers. There really just isn't any but the thinnest literary or real world justification for that class, it exists utterly for gamist reasons and people have been saying so for ages. If it had been built on literary tradition it would have been a wonder-worker type, using magic and divine grace to survive and fight, and probably not had any weapon or armor at all. Again, ironically, this type of character only became really possible in 4e, and is quite well represented by the Invoker class (though you can get a somewhat similar effect using a 'laser cleric' build). Honestly I think by relaxing a lot of the locked-in class traditionalism and adding some classes to cover more literary and less D&D-centric concepts 4e has better support for archetypes than previous editions in general. [/QUOTE]
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