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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6104453" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, I don't have any real disagreement with you on that, it was just that a lot of 3e and even some AD&D classes (thief!) really didn't get to DO much that made sense for a good while. The AD&D thief just didn't have high enough skill checks to dare to do much at lower levels, it was weird. Paladins had to hoof it around on foot for 4 levels, etc. It DOES happen some in 4e as well, there are builds that don't really work before level 11, but every class does at least work right off. Really I think 30 levels is too much, and we should consider 20 levels as the better model, which is one thing DDN seems to maybe be getting right (unless they consider level 21+ 'epic', which I don't know). That would mean having a PrC/PP at level 6 or 7, which seems pretty good to me. Picking up an 'epic destiny' around level 15 or so feels about right too, that's about where AD&D characters were pretty much super powerful.I think the PP concept DOES work. There are SOME requirements for some PPs but they are usually sensible and minimal ones that most characters can plan to meet. Many paths don't have any real requirements at all beyond "will this gel with my character". As for what they're called, personally I like the 'path' nomenclature, 'Prestige' never made sense to me as a term, and they aren't classes. 'Prestige Class' sounds like something you got for having shiny teeth and a blocky chin, lol. Still, names aren't that big a deal. Maybe call it "Heroic Calling" or something.</blockquote>

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