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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4771463" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>Some people just happen to like some things, and maybe even better when they're labeled "D&D"; at any rate, they don't particularly <strong>mind</strong> razing and paving over what used to be there and replacing it with something "modern". Other folks prefer the old game (at least as a common frame of reference, even if they change it up for a campaign), and as push has come to shove they'll take it by whatever name.</p><p></p><p>Magic, verisimilitude, role-playing, freedom, literature versus video and comic books ... all sorts of things figure in the equation.</p><p></p><p><strong>Anyway</strong>, if the magical-or-whatever baseline in 4E is groovy but one wants some stuff with a bit more "sense of wonder", then I think it should be easy to tip in with magic items -- especially if one expands horizons beyond what "item" usually means. There can be magical places, times, creatures, deeds, etc..</p><p></p><p>If a wand of lightning bolts or the like is too old hat, then how about a container for storms? First, you've got to brave an actual storm ... but you can "suck it up" into a bag or something and let it out later.</p><p></p><p>How about a seed that when planted grows in moments into a mighty tree?</p><p></p><p>Maybe there are stones that "sing" each time a certain comet returns. There's a cryptic account of the last babbling words of a Woolly Man slave who upon hearing the song went into a seizure and died. To find one who speaks the tongue of Woolly Ones these days calls for a long and perilous journey into unmapped lands. (So long as it's not terribly anticlimactic, the solution of the mystery should be all the more marvelous for the effort needed to discover it.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4771463, member: 80487"] Some people just happen to like some things, and maybe even better when they're labeled "D&D"; at any rate, they don't particularly [b]mind[/b] razing and paving over what used to be there and replacing it with something "modern". Other folks prefer the old game (at least as a common frame of reference, even if they change it up for a campaign), and as push has come to shove they'll take it by whatever name. Magic, verisimilitude, role-playing, freedom, literature versus video and comic books ... all sorts of things figure in the equation. [b]Anyway[/b], if the magical-or-whatever baseline in 4E is groovy but one wants some stuff with a bit more "sense of wonder", then I think it should be easy to tip in with magic items -- especially if one expands horizons beyond what "item" usually means. There can be magical places, times, creatures, deeds, etc.. If a wand of lightning bolts or the like is too old hat, then how about a container for storms? First, you've got to brave an actual storm ... but you can "suck it up" into a bag or something and let it out later. How about a seed that when planted grows in moments into a mighty tree? Maybe there are stones that "sing" each time a certain comet returns. There's a cryptic account of the last babbling words of a Woolly Man slave who upon hearing the song went into a seizure and died. To find one who speaks the tongue of Woolly Ones these days calls for a long and perilous journey into unmapped lands. (So long as it's not terribly anticlimactic, the solution of the mystery should be all the more marvelous for the effort needed to discover it.) [/QUOTE]
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