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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 4778349" data-attributes="member: 27873"><p>I thought what I wrote was quite clear, but let me try to elaborate. The PHB gives a different description for Martial Encounter and Daily Powers vs all other power sources. </p><p></p><p> For Arcane and Divine Encounter Powers, it says this:</p><p></p><p> <em>These are spells or prayers of such power that they take time to re-form in your mind after you unleash their magical energy. </em></p><p></p><p> For Martial Encounter Powers is says this:</p><p></p><p> <em>They are exploits you've practiced extensively but can only pull off once in a while. </em></p><p></p><p> The implication is that is normally impossible for Arcane characters to cast an encounter spell for than once every few minutes or so. </p><p></p><p>By contrast, the martial encounter power is something the character can attempt as often as he wants (He's practiced it extensively, after all) but can only <em>pull off</em> or <em>use successfully</em> every "once in a while" which in game terms amounts to once per fight. This is a very narrative explanation any way you look at it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I linked to T.V. tropes because this is a very common archtype across genres. I'm very suprised you are not conciously aware of it. To give some examples...</p><p></p><p> Batman is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural. </p><p></p><p> Conan is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural.</p><p></p><p> Odysseus is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural.</p><p></p><p> Tarzan is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural.</p><p></p><p> D&D Fighters have never been realistic. You cannot realistically and consistantly kill enormous Dragons and Giants with a 3' length of steel. This does not mean D&D fighters have ever been magical, because they aren't, outside of whatever magical gear they have been equipped. They are assumed to overcome unrealistic and impossible odds through strength, cunning, and skill at arms.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 4778349, member: 27873"] I thought what I wrote was quite clear, but let me try to elaborate. The PHB gives a different description for Martial Encounter and Daily Powers vs all other power sources. For Arcane and Divine Encounter Powers, it says this: [I]These are spells or prayers of such power that they take time to re-form in your mind after you unleash their magical energy. [/I] For Martial Encounter Powers is says this: [I]They are exploits you've practiced extensively but can only pull off once in a while. [/I] The implication is that is normally impossible for Arcane characters to cast an encounter spell for than once every few minutes or so. By contrast, the martial encounter power is something the character can attempt as often as he wants (He's practiced it extensively, after all) but can only [I]pull off[/I] or [I]use successfully[/I] every "once in a while" which in game terms amounts to once per fight. This is a very narrative explanation any way you look at it. I linked to T.V. tropes because this is a very common archtype across genres. I'm very suprised you are not conciously aware of it. To give some examples... Batman is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural. Conan is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural. Odysseus is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural. Tarzan is not a magical character, but he can accomplish things that are not realistic. He is unrealistcally awesome, but not supernatural. D&D Fighters have never been realistic. You cannot realistically and consistantly kill enormous Dragons and Giants with a 3' length of steel. This does not mean D&D fighters have ever been magical, because they aren't, outside of whatever magical gear they have been equipped. They are assumed to overcome unrealistic and impossible odds through strength, cunning, and skill at arms. [/QUOTE]
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