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<blockquote data-quote="Buttercup" data-source="post: 1769703" data-attributes="member: 990">I'm coming into this thread late, but welcome to EN World!&nbsp;It looks to me like there are several different issues here.&nbsp; First, as others have said, it is the prerogative of the DM to change the monsters, and I wouldn't consider this along the lines of a house rule.&nbsp; Removing AOO or changing the way a spell works would be a house rule.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;That said, I agree that he shouldn't have expected the characters to know that a human-shaped pile of dust was a dead vampire.&nbsp; It does indeed sound like your DM is inexperienced.&nbsp; The way I would handle such a thing is like so:&nbsp; &quot;You see a vaguely human shaped pile of dust on the ground.&nbsp; Father Berengarius, please roll a Knowledge (religion) check.&quot;&nbsp; Then after it was rolled, unless the character got a 1 or something, &quot;A shudder goes down your spine as you recall that vampires turn to dust when they are killed.&quot;&nbsp;Regarding the players taking the time to role play upkeep and other mundane matters, this is a matter of taste.&nbsp; My players like it, and so do I.&nbsp; But lots of people don't, hence the rules in the DMG for standard upkeep.&nbsp; It sounds to me like your current group might not be the best fit for you.&nbsp; Perhaps you should look around for another game that matches the sort of game you want to play.&nbsp; There's nothing wrong with admitting that you have a different play style that your current group.&nbsp; Remember, it's all about having fun, and if you aren't then it's ok to move on.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buttercup, post: 1769703, member: 990"] I'm coming into this thread late, but welcome to EN World! It looks to me like there are several different issues here. First, as others have said, it is the prerogative of the DM to change the monsters, and I wouldn't consider this along the lines of a house rule. Removing AOO or changing the way a spell works would be a house rule. That said, I agree that he shouldn't have expected the characters to know that a human-shaped pile of dust was a dead vampire. It does indeed sound like your DM is inexperienced. The way I would handle such a thing is like so: "You see a vaguely human shaped pile of dust on the ground. Father Berengarius, please roll a Knowledge (religion) check." Then after it was rolled, unless the character got a 1 or something, "A shudder goes down your spine as you recall that vampires turn to dust when they are killed." Regarding the players taking the time to role play upkeep and other mundane matters, this is a matter of taste. My players like it, and so do I. But lots of people don't, hence the rules in the DMG for standard upkeep. It sounds to me like your current group might not be the best fit for you. Perhaps you should look around for another game that matches the sort of game you want to play. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you have a different play style that your current group. Remember, it's all about having fun, and if you aren't then it's ok to move on.:) [/QUOTE]

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