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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet" data-source="post: 7399835" data-attributes="member: 6689161">I like a mutual relationship.I developed a fallen angel patron for my warlock (fiend pact).&nbsp; The character thinks it is simply an angel, but he is deceived.&nbsp; I play him as I wish and then the DM sort of adds things about visions or messages that enhance the roleplay experience.&nbsp; What I would avoid is the need to control and punish.&nbsp; The player wants to play a character.&nbsp; Work together.&nbsp; I hate it when the DM tries to make a bunch of uncomfortable unfun demands or you &quot;lose your powers.&quot;I understand it when a Lawful Good cleric acts in a evil fashion consistently, but hate the punishment and control thing.&nbsp; I wanted to play a deceived clergy-man who thinks he is holy but has been listening to a very smooth talking serpent.&nbsp; If the DM forces a different direction, he might as well tell me to play some other character. I say collaboration...player and DM get excited about making the them MORE not different like actors playing off of eachother.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet, post: 7399835, member: 6689161"] I like a mutual relationship. I developed a fallen angel patron for my warlock (fiend pact). The character thinks it is simply an angel, but he is deceived. I play him as I wish and then the DM sort of adds things about visions or messages that enhance the roleplay experience. What I would avoid is the need to control and punish. The player wants to play a character. Work together. I hate it when the DM tries to make a bunch of uncomfortable unfun demands or you "lose your powers." I understand it when a Lawful Good cleric acts in a evil fashion consistently, but hate the punishment and control thing. I wanted to play a deceived clergy-man who thinks he is holy but has been listening to a very smooth talking serpent. If the DM forces a different direction, he might as well tell me to play some other character. I say collaboration...player and DM get excited about making the them MORE not different like actors playing off of eachother. [/QUOTE]

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