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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8355701" data-attributes="member: 86653">Yes, and when that choice is universally made, it becomes the bog standard. In the seven years 5E has existed there's not been a single group I've played with or ran for that didn't include someone with outlander, a ranger, or someone with tiny hut, the food &amp; water spells, or some grand combination of all of them. It's also a choice to put your high stat in the main stat for your class, but it's so ubiquitous that it's not even really a &quot;choice&quot;. Likewise with picking a race that has an ability bonus that helps your class. When it's so universally made it's no longer a &quot;choice&quot;. Which is why they put customizing your lineage in Tasha's. Now players feel empowered to not just pick a race/class combo that gets them max ability scores for their class...because any race choice they make will still get them those max ability score bonuses. That's how much of a non-choice that's been. Same with travel. It's such a non-choice that literally everyone does it. Almost in the same way all groups just happen to have a healer. It's a &quot;choice&quot;. But it's so universal it's a non-choice. You either make this choice or some part of the game sucks. That's not a meaningful choice.A travelogue isn't engaging. The risks of wilderness travel and exploration are what makes it engaging. Without those risks, there's nothing to be engaged by. I like sandboxes and hexcrawls, so yeah, I get that wilderness exploration and travel are more than just navigation, travel time, and foraging. But those are interesting, too. It bothers me that they're basically removed in 5E.I make outlander advantage on survival checks to navigate and forage. And I do just that with rangers and Tasha's.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8355701, member: 86653"] Yes, and when that choice is[I] universally[/I] made, it becomes the bog standard. In the seven years 5E has existed there's not been a single group I've played with or ran for that didn't include someone with outlander, a ranger, or someone with tiny hut, the food & water spells, or some grand combination of all of them. It's also a choice to put your high stat in the main stat for your class, but it's so ubiquitous that it's not even really a "choice". Likewise with picking a race that has an ability bonus that helps your class. When it's so universally made it's no longer a "choice". Which is why they put customizing your lineage in Tasha's. Now players feel empowered to not just pick a race/class combo that gets them max ability scores for their class...because any race choice they make will still get them those max ability score bonuses. That's how much of a non-choice that's been. Same with travel. It's such a non-choice that literally everyone does it. Almost in the same way all groups just happen to have a healer. It's a "choice". But it's so universal it's a non-choice. You either make this choice or some part of the game sucks. That's not a meaningful choice. A travelogue isn't engaging. The risks of wilderness travel and exploration are what makes it engaging. Without those risks, there's nothing to be engaged by. I like sandboxes and hexcrawls, so yeah, I get that wilderness exploration and travel are more than just navigation, travel time, and foraging. But those are interesting, too. It bothers me that they're basically removed in 5E. I make outlander advantage on survival checks to navigate and forage. And I do just that with rangers and Tasha's. [/QUOTE]

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