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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8358126" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>You're mixing up two different things. Yes, they train to minimize risk <em>on the job</em>...and their <em>hobbies</em> are typically quite extreme. So for a lot of them, it's <em>fun</em> to feel the adrenaline rush of extreme sports. And training to survive r<em>unning into a burning building</em> doesn't preclude the adrenaline rush they get from <em>running into a burning building</em>. Just because they're trained to minimize risk on the job doesn't mean it's not also <em>fun</em> or that they don't <em>take risks for the fun of it</em>. Both are simultaneously true: they minimize risks <em>on the job</em> and <em>take risks because they're fun</em> on and off the job.</p><p></p><p>Not enough to avoid intentionally running into a building that's on fire.</p><p></p><p>They're also legally required to. Take a look at YouTube and all the dumb crap people get up to without safety gear. Jackass is a famous example. Extreme sports have sponsors and insurance to worry about.</p><p></p><p>You seem to be confusing things a bit. Risking your life is inherent in extreme sports. They wear protective gear to minimize accidents and because they're legally required to. But death is always a possibility. Bungee jumping, base jumping, skydiving, etc. And yes, the extreme sports people wear protective gear...kinda like how adventurers wear armor...but they still willingly, regularly, and intentionally risk their lives for fun and profit. Now. Take away the insurance companies and sponsors. What would extreme sports look like? A lot closer to Jackass and the folks on YouTube. And D&D adventurers.</p><p></p><p>And we're not talking about real life. We're talking about elfgames. The characters who are D&D adventurers are adrenaline junkies who go into dark and dangerous places to murder whatever they find there, loot the place, and haul the treasure back to town to make themselves rich. They're not well-adjusted, clear-headed, right-thinking folks. They literally risk their lives for fun and profit. That's incompatible with "taking the safest route possible". </p><p></p><p>That low INT fighter isn't going to be wearing the best armor all the time. They're going to Leeroy Jenkins a lot of monsters. Sure, they'll die. But they're also too dumb to realize how much risk is involved. Again, it's about role-playing the character. I'm willing to bet your INT is higher than the 8 INT fighter. You are aware of the risks...that fighter probably isn't. So to role-play that INT 8 fighter you can't be overly worried about the risks. That's literally metagaming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8358126, member: 86653"] You're mixing up two different things. Yes, they train to minimize risk [I]on the job[/I]...and their [I]hobbies[/I] are typically quite extreme. So for a lot of them, it's [I]fun[/I] to feel the adrenaline rush of extreme sports. And training to survive r[I]unning into a burning building[/I] doesn't preclude the adrenaline rush they get from [I]running into a burning building[/I]. Just because they're trained to minimize risk on the job doesn't mean it's not also [I]fun[/I] or that they don't [I]take risks for the fun of it[/I]. Both are simultaneously true: they minimize risks [I]on the job[/I] and [I]take risks because they're fun[/I] on and off the job. Not enough to avoid intentionally running into a building that's on fire. They're also legally required to. Take a look at YouTube and all the dumb crap people get up to without safety gear. Jackass is a famous example. Extreme sports have sponsors and insurance to worry about. You seem to be confusing things a bit. Risking your life is inherent in extreme sports. They wear protective gear to minimize accidents and because they're legally required to. But death is always a possibility. Bungee jumping, base jumping, skydiving, etc. And yes, the extreme sports people wear protective gear...kinda like how adventurers wear armor...but they still willingly, regularly, and intentionally risk their lives for fun and profit. Now. Take away the insurance companies and sponsors. What would extreme sports look like? A lot closer to Jackass and the folks on YouTube. And D&D adventurers. And we're not talking about real life. We're talking about elfgames. The characters who are D&D adventurers are adrenaline junkies who go into dark and dangerous places to murder whatever they find there, loot the place, and haul the treasure back to town to make themselves rich. They're not well-adjusted, clear-headed, right-thinking folks. They literally risk their lives for fun and profit. That's incompatible with "taking the safest route possible". That low INT fighter isn't going to be wearing the best armor all the time. They're going to Leeroy Jenkins a lot of monsters. Sure, they'll die. But they're also too dumb to realize how much risk is involved. Again, it's about role-playing the character. I'm willing to bet your INT is higher than the 8 INT fighter. You are aware of the risks...that fighter probably isn't. So to role-play that INT 8 fighter you can't be overly worried about the risks. That's literally metagaming. [/QUOTE]
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