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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8363952" data-attributes="member: 16814">I'm not sure, because this isn't the same problem, this is now an NPC intimidating an NPC.&nbsp; I wouldn't bother with this, or pick an outcome I liked.Why doesn't it?&nbsp; DC is set by approach and task in 5e, according to the rules.&nbsp; The GM considers how hard they think a particular approach is to do a particular task, and is encouraged to pick easy, medium, or hard, with very hard or impossible being recommended as rare options.&nbsp; So, if a 20th level character wants to do something, and has a good approach, DC should reflect this.&nbsp; There's no reason you can't lean on things you've done for this, like &quot;I try to start the fire, recalling what Bob the Ranger said about good firemaking.&quot;&nbsp; Sure, sounds easy, give it a roll.&nbsp; Meanwhile in 4e, the GM is expected to set the DC according to your level, which means you have about the same chance for unskilled easy tasks as the 5e guy, but you get shafted by moderate and hard taskings while the 5e guy does as well or better.I feel like people are looking only at the numbers next to the skill/proficiency on the sheet and not at all considering how those are actually used in game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8363952, member: 16814"] I'm not sure, because this isn't the same problem, this is now an NPC intimidating an NPC. I wouldn't bother with this, or pick an outcome I liked. Why doesn't it? DC is set by approach and task in 5e, according to the rules. The GM considers how hard they think a particular approach is to do a particular task, and is encouraged to pick easy, medium, or hard, with very hard or impossible being recommended as rare options. So, if a 20th level character wants to do something, and has a good approach, DC should reflect this. There's no reason you can't lean on things you've done for this, like "I try to start the fire, recalling what Bob the Ranger said about good firemaking." Sure, sounds easy, give it a roll. Meanwhile in 4e, the GM is expected to set the DC according to your level, which means you have about the same chance for unskilled easy tasks as the 5e guy, but you get shafted by moderate and hard taskings while the 5e guy does as well or better. I feel like people are looking only at the numbers next to the skill/proficiency on the sheet and not at all considering how those are actually used in game. [/QUOTE]

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