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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8364395" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, all I'm really trying to get across to people is that 5e didn't 'break the treadmill', NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. It just made it really really obtuse, because now you have to go through all the arguments you and I just had to arrive at &quot;gosh, I should raise the DCs of meaningful tasks to significant (IE you will often fail) levels relative to the PCs skills.&quot; Yeah, DUH! Why can't 5e just friggin' say that? Instead it has to be obtuse and half the GMs in existence WILL get it wrong, because they don't have years of experience, and/or a lot of game fu. Skill checks are just one example of this, and it is really unfortunate. I would never recommend 5e as a game to use to learn to GM. It is not a good GM game. IMHO this was not a necessary design choice which impacts the popularity of 5e. It is popular because the rules are relatively clean and yet reproduce a fairly reasonable facsimile of pre-WotC TSR D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8364395, member: 82106"] Yeah, all I'm really trying to get across to people is that 5e didn't 'break the treadmill', NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. It just made it really really obtuse, because now you have to go through all the arguments you and I just had to arrive at "gosh, I should raise the DCs of meaningful tasks to significant (IE you will often fail) levels relative to the PCs skills." Yeah, DUH! Why can't 5e just friggin' say that? Instead it has to be obtuse and half the GMs in existence WILL get it wrong, because they don't have years of experience, and/or a lot of game fu. Skill checks are just one example of this, and it is really unfortunate. I would never recommend 5e as a game to use to learn to GM. It is not a good GM game. IMHO this was not a necessary design choice which impacts the popularity of 5e. It is popular because the rules are relatively clean and yet reproduce a fairly reasonable facsimile of pre-WotC TSR D&D. [/QUOTE]

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