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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8364973" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I don't really recall the details, just that there was a CharOps post at one time which delineated a Wizard with a +69 Arcana bonus. I'm guessing some of this might have been somewhat situational, like applying to checks when casting rituals, or at a restricted number of instances per day. It may have also assumed certain 'equivalencies', like rerolls being translated into the equivalent average bonus or something. I'm not sure, its been 10 years. [USER=12749]@MwaO[/USER] is the optimization guru... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I also recall some builds with VERY high Intimidation bonuses. This was a popular trick build, since you could get magic items that would impose bloodied, and then you could AP and force the monster to surrender without actually removing all its hit points, one of a VERY small number of ways to do that in 4e! (and the other ways were pretty much 'be an orbizard' which got nerfed a bunch).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8364973, member: 82106"] I don't really recall the details, just that there was a CharOps post at one time which delineated a Wizard with a +69 Arcana bonus. I'm guessing some of this might have been somewhat situational, like applying to checks when casting rituals, or at a restricted number of instances per day. It may have also assumed certain 'equivalencies', like rerolls being translated into the equivalent average bonus or something. I'm not sure, its been 10 years. [USER=12749]@MwaO[/USER] is the optimization guru... ;) I also recall some builds with VERY high Intimidation bonuses. This was a popular trick build, since you could get magic items that would impose bloodied, and then you could AP and force the monster to surrender without actually removing all its hit points, one of a VERY small number of ways to do that in 4e! (and the other ways were pretty much 'be an orbizard' which got nerfed a bunch). [/QUOTE]
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