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<blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 8366515" data-attributes="member: 12749">If you're in a skill challenge, then the DCs have to go up. If you're not, they don't.The DM is deciding that they want something that challenges a party of level X that is not a combat, but a set of skill checks. If something isn't actually a threat, you can handwave it or let the story dictate — &quot;The guard is easily convinced.&quot; &quot;You easily climb the slippery scree.&quot; If you're not in a skill challenge, but a player tells you they want to do something, then there's often an objective DC just as if a player tells you they want to attack the giant dragon at 1st level or the 20th level party kills the lone goblin guard. Yeah, the combats that ensure from those might be ridiculously hard or easy, just as an objective DC can be such.Personally, I love the idea of throwing heroic tier skill challenges against paragon tier PCs, where I assume auto-success is going to be the outcome and then challenge the players to think about what's going on(basically the first big non-combat encounter of the Living Forgotten Realms Adventure NETH4-1)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MwaO, post: 8366515, member: 12749"] If you're in a skill challenge, then the DCs have to go up. If you're not, they don't. The DM is deciding that they want something that challenges a party of level X that is not a combat, but a set of skill checks. If something isn't actually a threat, you can handwave it or let the story dictate — "The guard is easily convinced." "You easily climb the slippery scree." If you're not in a skill challenge, but a player tells you they want to do something, then there's often an objective DC just as if a player tells you they want to attack the giant dragon at 1st level or the 20th level party kills the lone goblin guard. Yeah, the combats that ensure from those might be ridiculously hard or easy, just as an objective DC can be such. Personally, I love the idea of throwing heroic tier skill challenges against paragon tier PCs, where I assume auto-success is going to be the outcome and then challenge the players to think about what's going on(basically the first big non-combat encounter of the Living Forgotten Realms Adventure NETH4-1) [/QUOTE]

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