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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8367000" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>I don't see much need, as this pretty much sums up my thinking on where you were going. DC wasn't about the fiction as is but rather the fiction as desired, and so if pacing was desired, DCs were selected for this goal, not for anything in the fiction. I'm still not sure subjective vs objective is a good term for this -- perhaps grounded and ungrounded? You approach is not well grounded in the fiction or the action, it's whatever it needs to be and the fiction catches up (not a dig, this is 100% valid and I clearly see the use). The other tries to ground things to the fiction as established and the current situation without regard to those other things, at least not after the fact -- it could be a factor in prep. Honestly, I don't have a problem with either way, it just depend on what your goal for play is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8367000, member: 16814"] I don't see much need, as this pretty much sums up my thinking on where you were going. DC wasn't about the fiction as is but rather the fiction as desired, and so if pacing was desired, DCs were selected for this goal, not for anything in the fiction. I'm still not sure subjective vs objective is a good term for this -- perhaps grounded and ungrounded? You approach is not well grounded in the fiction or the action, it's whatever it needs to be and the fiction catches up (not a dig, this is 100% valid and I clearly see the use). The other tries to ground things to the fiction as established and the current situation without regard to those other things, at least not after the fact -- it could be a factor in prep. Honestly, I don't have a problem with either way, it just depend on what your goal for play is. [/QUOTE]
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