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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8367139" data-attributes="member: 82504">no idea where that is to be gleaned from.In 5e the static DCs with non skilled characters being static ability mean they are an OBSTACLE because bounded accuracy makes it so. The squashed math of 5e makes it so unless the DM manages by fiat to override them into non-obstacles. To me the core difference between 5e and 4e seems to be its aload more DM work. More work to make monsters interesting. More work to make encountersIn 5e the wizard gets to do that getting through the door loudly but your mundanely strong fighter is probably just going to just I mean the system has you setting difficulties based on what the guy at the gym can do.... he isn't knocking down anything of legendary or mythic difficulty. In 4e I actively expect him to.The fighters of 5e are very mundane out of the box outside of combat without regular dm fiat.Exactly 4e didnt change the story at all. It followed through on it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 8367139, member: 82504"] no idea where that is to be gleaned from. In 5e the static DCs with non skilled characters being static ability mean they are an OBSTACLE because bounded accuracy makes it so. The squashed math of 5e makes it so unless the DM manages by fiat to override them into non-obstacles. To me the core difference between 5e and 4e seems to be its aload more DM work. More work to make monsters interesting. More work to make encounters In 5e the wizard gets to do that getting through the door loudly but your mundanely strong fighter is probably just going to just I mean the system has you setting difficulties based on what the guy at the gym can do.... he isn't knocking down anything of legendary or mythic difficulty. In 4e I actively expect him to. The fighters of 5e are very mundane out of the box outside of combat without regular dm fiat. Exactly 4e didnt change the story at all. It followed through on it. [/QUOTE]

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