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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moonstone Spider" data-source="post: 3050887" data-attributes="member: 40079">The thing is, you don't HAVE to go melee with a wizard.  He's got plenty of awesome spells to use at range.  The Vampire doesn't (Or at best he's worse off than the Wizard is for BAB), and many of his special abilities you're losing levels for are melee-based like blood drain and negative energy.  A Vampire Wizard can't supply a useful number of buffs, and can't punch through enemy spell resistance, and so he can't hold back the way the wizard can.Would you care to elaborate on how the vampire can do "lots of things" to counter a fireball, an archer's full attack, or a monk pouring a vial of silversheen on his hands before flurrying the vampire?Goodie.  He gets an extra +3 to attack and only loses +8 to BAB, so in the end a Vampire Fighter's 2 attacks short (Full Attack of +11) and +5 short of the human (Total Attack +16/+11/+8).  The armor's nice but Armor's the easiest thing in the world to increase with magic items, that +6 natural armor is very impressive naked but not so powerful (though still nice to have) when a mix of various amulets, rings, armors, and such have boosted each of their ACs through the roof.</blockquote>