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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moonstone Spider" data-source="post: 3052509" data-attributes="member: 40079">And he'd have looked even worse if the Wizard cast "Command Undead," or a Cleric tried to turn Kesho.  That would never affect Okesh.  Thus I tried to pick a spell that would affect both of them on a relatively equal basis.Originally I planned to write out three spells but realized that analysis was getting ludicrously long.  That's the same reason I left out equipment considerations.However anybody is naturally free to invent more scenarios and test the comparison under other circumstances.  That's why I supplied all the feats and such even when they didn't play a role in my own scenarios.Actually I think a Fighter would be notably worse.  A Vampire Fighter (without Toughness) would have the same HD as Kesho (84).  A human fighter would start with 115 or so and would pretty much certainly have a high CON modifier since a fighter is basically just pure CON and STR.  Putting CON at 18 (Actually unreasonably small for a 20th level fighter) he'd wind up with an additional 80HP for 195.Lastly the fighter class pretty much lives to go PrC.  The Vampire LA would likely eat your PrC levels so you're not just losing 4 bonus feats, you're losing something that's probably extremely powerful.As for Rogue. . . a Vampire can never enter a non-public house or other building without permission.  Your rogue is unable to sneak inside anywhere so you're kind of boned for one of the major Rogue activities.I think just glancing at it that the best class might be Swashbuckler.  High STR and INT will stack on damage rolls, high DEX for Finesse Weapon, natural armor makes up for the Swashbuckler's light armor restriction, Swashbuckler's Good Luck abilities can help keep the vampire alive when it's weak low saves would otherwise get it killed.  Good Armor, mediocre hitpoints, low to-hit but high damage on those hits.</blockquote>

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