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How is a vampire possibly worth +8 LA?
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<blockquote data-quote="Question" data-source="post: 3052693" data-attributes="member: 40104"><p>Im seeing the exact reverse happening. Too many races/templates with LA that is too high, players cant use what should be perfectly viable choices when making a PC, DMs are either too scared to modify races/templates with too high LA to be playable(or they blindly believe everything wizards has balanced is perfect, and that the LA really fits the bonuses given), and the races with LA too low arent chosen that much in the first place(i almost never see whisper gnomes or warforged for example, even goliaths which are an insanely good LA +1), and designers always err on the side of caution(balance things based on underpowered items, which always explains how you get feats, PRCs, so on and so forth that are underpowered and non-viable for gameplay).</p><p></p><p>It doesnt matter what ECL your party is at, a vamprie PC -will- get one hit KOed, quite possibly in the surprise round even. No XP, no loot.....it is going to suck, and god forbid where you have to do something in DAYTIME......or even something as simple as sneaking into the BBEG's lair. D&D is meant to have a decent amount of combat, how is something playable if you get one hit KOed first round in combat?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Question, post: 3052693, member: 40104"] Im seeing the exact reverse happening. Too many races/templates with LA that is too high, players cant use what should be perfectly viable choices when making a PC, DMs are either too scared to modify races/templates with too high LA to be playable(or they blindly believe everything wizards has balanced is perfect, and that the LA really fits the bonuses given), and the races with LA too low arent chosen that much in the first place(i almost never see whisper gnomes or warforged for example, even goliaths which are an insanely good LA +1), and designers always err on the side of caution(balance things based on underpowered items, which always explains how you get feats, PRCs, so on and so forth that are underpowered and non-viable for gameplay). It doesnt matter what ECL your party is at, a vamprie PC -will- get one hit KOed, quite possibly in the surprise round even. No XP, no loot.....it is going to suck, and god forbid where you have to do something in DAYTIME......or even something as simple as sneaking into the BBEG's lair. D&D is meant to have a decent amount of combat, how is something playable if you get one hit KOed first round in combat? [/QUOTE]
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