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How is a vampire possibly worth +8 LA?
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<blockquote data-quote="Question" data-source="post: 3053032" data-attributes="member: 40104"><p>I havent noticed the power creeping in WOTC supplements at all......i have liked that WOTC is publishing more and more useful feats, instead of ones that are so insanely situational it might as well be a house rule for a single campaign, or ones where the only reason you would take it is if you HAD to(for another feat or PRC), or you really liked the flavour.</p><p></p><p>What should be a "perfectly viable race" is debatable. IMHO if something has a LA, it should be playable. Things like solars have no LA for a reason. Also there could be interesting RP/gameplay situations with vampire PCs. </p><p></p><p>Dominate does not fully replace diplomacy. A key function of diplomacy would be getting NPCs to help you or to not hurt you. If a solar comes calling, do you really want to try to dominate him/her.......or use diplomacy to try and weasel out? Do you really want to try and dominate a powerful ruler who is likely shielded with powerful magics, and risk tipping your hand? So on and so forth.</p><p></p><p>Oh and a wizard can cast dominate ENOUGH times so theres not much difference. If a wizard wants to dominate shopkeepers into getting free stuff.......he can do so.......and have more than a week to get away. A high level wizard could hit every valuable shop in a metropolis within a week, and be away with another week's headstart on any law enforcement attempts to get him. He can still dominate enough guards in the king's palace to sneak in if he wanted to, and chances are would be better at using this against powerful NPCs with SR or high will saves, and it would last over twice as long as a vampire PC's dominate.</p><p></p><p>Technically speaking a astral deva's continual flame is more abusive. Lets see, 6 seconds to make one ever flaming torch(or rough equavelent), lets say 2 weeks making these for sale, how does this compare to profession or craft checks?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Question, post: 3053032, member: 40104"] I havent noticed the power creeping in WOTC supplements at all......i have liked that WOTC is publishing more and more useful feats, instead of ones that are so insanely situational it might as well be a house rule for a single campaign, or ones where the only reason you would take it is if you HAD to(for another feat or PRC), or you really liked the flavour. What should be a "perfectly viable race" is debatable. IMHO if something has a LA, it should be playable. Things like solars have no LA for a reason. Also there could be interesting RP/gameplay situations with vampire PCs. Dominate does not fully replace diplomacy. A key function of diplomacy would be getting NPCs to help you or to not hurt you. If a solar comes calling, do you really want to try to dominate him/her.......or use diplomacy to try and weasel out? Do you really want to try and dominate a powerful ruler who is likely shielded with powerful magics, and risk tipping your hand? So on and so forth. Oh and a wizard can cast dominate ENOUGH times so theres not much difference. If a wizard wants to dominate shopkeepers into getting free stuff.......he can do so.......and have more than a week to get away. A high level wizard could hit every valuable shop in a metropolis within a week, and be away with another week's headstart on any law enforcement attempts to get him. He can still dominate enough guards in the king's palace to sneak in if he wanted to, and chances are would be better at using this against powerful NPCs with SR or high will saves, and it would last over twice as long as a vampire PC's dominate. Technically speaking a astral deva's continual flame is more abusive. Lets see, 6 seconds to make one ever flaming torch(or rough equavelent), lets say 2 weeks making these for sale, how does this compare to profession or craft checks? [/QUOTE]
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