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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7580885" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Let's take a simple scenario, jumping across a gap.&nbsp; Your strength typically says how far you can jump.&nbsp; If the gap is longer than you could normally jump or you don't have that 10 ft head start, we need to start using skills, but I'm pretty flexible.You could use an athletics check to jump further, or if you land just short to grab onto the ledge and pull yourself up.If there a branches overhead or a dead giant you could use a launching point I'd allow you to use acrobatics to increase your jump distance.Perception might be used to notice handholds everyone else is missing.Intelligence might let you devise a clever plan like using a nearby sapling as a catapult.A charisma check to convince the NPC barbarian to carry you on his shoulders.So it just depends on the situation and what my players can justify.&nbsp; I do limit acrobatics at times though.&nbsp; If there is no chandelier to swing from or a beam to vault off of then they may be SOL.&nbsp; Sometimes brute strength is the only thing that matters.&nbsp; For example, on a ship adventure, the acrobat was swinging from the sails, walking the yard arm, etc.&nbsp; Then he got knocked into the water but managed to grab on to a trailing rope.&nbsp; However, I ruled that since the boat was moving through the water quickly and the water was choppy he needed an athletics check to pull himself out of the water.&nbsp; Some things just can't be finessed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7580885, member: 6801845"] Let's take a simple scenario, jumping across a gap. Your strength typically says how far you can jump. If the gap is longer than you could normally jump or you don't have that 10 ft head start, we need to start using skills, but I'm pretty flexible. You could use an athletics check to jump further, or if you land just short to grab onto the ledge and pull yourself up. If there a branches overhead or a dead giant you could use a launching point I'd allow you to use acrobatics to increase your jump distance. Perception might be used to notice handholds everyone else is missing. Intelligence might let you devise a clever plan like using a nearby sapling as a catapult. A charisma check to convince the NPC barbarian to carry you on his shoulders. So it just depends on the situation and what my players can justify. I do limit acrobatics at times though. If there is no chandelier to swing from or a beam to vault off of then they may be SOL. Sometimes brute strength is the only thing that matters. For example, on a ship adventure, the acrobat was swinging from the sails, walking the yard arm, etc. Then he got knocked into the water but managed to grab on to a trailing rope. However, I ruled that since the boat was moving through the water quickly and the water was choppy he needed an athletics check to pull himself out of the water. Some things just can't be finessed. [/QUOTE]

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