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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2988473" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>I'm guessing its an ancient holdover from when there was no good or evil alignment and Lawful and Chaotic were the only ones, described as being loosely 'good' and 'evil' respectively. It carries over unfortunately to the idea that LG and CE are the best of the best and the worst of the worst.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends on how you look at it.</p><p></p><p>Technically NG/Elysium/Guardinals are 'pure good' in the sense that they're not beholden to Law or Chaos, and can use or ignore them entirely in their perpetuation of universal good. Archons and Eladrin on the other hand might be unable to fathom a difference between Good and Law, and Good and Chaos respectively. To an archon 'good' is inseperable with 'law', and anything less than LG either LN or NG is equally flawed, and something similar with an Eladrin. Archons and Eladrin aren't lG and cG, they're equally beholden their two alignment fractions while an NG guardinal doesn't have the same divided loyalties.</p><p></p><p>Similarly while Baatezu are equally beholden to Law and Evil, and Tanar'ri to Chaos and Evil, their NE counterparts and antecedants the Yugoloths aren't beholden to either Law or Chaos and can use or abuse both at whimsy in their application of Evil. In a sense the're 'pure evil'.</p><p></p><p>But now don't necessarily conflate 'pure' evil or 'pure' good with 'more' evil or 'more' good. They just won't have to potentially mince one aspect of their alignment to promote another, they won't have divided loyalties.</p><p></p><p>But of course, such alignment differences are really just academic if we're talking about mortals. The exemplar outsiders are in a different light than Joe McBad who might be CE versus Bob O'Meanie who is LE, the difference in total evil between them has less to do with alignment than personality, resources, and other circumstances divorced from the alignment stat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 2988473, member: 11697"] I'm guessing its an ancient holdover from when there was no good or evil alignment and Lawful and Chaotic were the only ones, described as being loosely 'good' and 'evil' respectively. It carries over unfortunately to the idea that LG and CE are the best of the best and the worst of the worst. Depends on how you look at it. Technically NG/Elysium/Guardinals are 'pure good' in the sense that they're not beholden to Law or Chaos, and can use or ignore them entirely in their perpetuation of universal good. Archons and Eladrin on the other hand might be unable to fathom a difference between Good and Law, and Good and Chaos respectively. To an archon 'good' is inseperable with 'law', and anything less than LG either LN or NG is equally flawed, and something similar with an Eladrin. Archons and Eladrin aren't lG and cG, they're equally beholden their two alignment fractions while an NG guardinal doesn't have the same divided loyalties. Similarly while Baatezu are equally beholden to Law and Evil, and Tanar'ri to Chaos and Evil, their NE counterparts and antecedants the Yugoloths aren't beholden to either Law or Chaos and can use or abuse both at whimsy in their application of Evil. In a sense the're 'pure evil'. But now don't necessarily conflate 'pure' evil or 'pure' good with 'more' evil or 'more' good. They just won't have to potentially mince one aspect of their alignment to promote another, they won't have divided loyalties. But of course, such alignment differences are really just academic if we're talking about mortals. The exemplar outsiders are in a different light than Joe McBad who might be CE versus Bob O'Meanie who is LE, the difference in total evil between them has less to do with alignment than personality, resources, and other circumstances divorced from the alignment stat. [/QUOTE]
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