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<blockquote data-quote="Mkhaiwati" data-source="post: 4411057" data-attributes="member: 43214"><p>let me see...</p><p></p><p>1) they change the pantheon.. many deities are killed for no sane reason, others are nerfed into some subservient role, and others are discovered to always be aspects of others (Sehanine was really Selune, Gond was Moradin, etc)</p><p>2) This massive backlash from killing Mystra (again!) destroys the planar structure, kills gods, blows up whole nations for being too magical (the Shining South), yet.... leaves intact Waterdeep and mythals (designer pet projects).</p><p>3) They kill many iconic characters (the Chosen, Halaster, Alusair, possibly Mirt and others) yet keep the ones that sell novels (Elminster and Drizzt).</p><p>4) the 100 year jump is to allow new players a chance to get into the setting, which nullifies much lore and books from previous editions. Yet, and I cannot produce a post for this, one designer said that previous lore won't be wasted for use with the new edition. Which is it? They are trying to please everyone, yet might end up pleasing no one.</p><p>5) Not sure where these "facts" came from, but it has often been mentioned that FR is the most popular setting (where this comes from, I dunno. Novels? RPGs?). If this is the case, why mess with it? I would think they would the setting intact instead of listening to complaints on why people don't play the setting. They have run a real risk of losing many current players in this new Realms, thereby making it a less popular setting.</p><p>6) most excerpts from the new setting book have been less than good. The warlock knights of vaasa are a good example. Instead of tying it to the Witch Lord Zhengy with existing lore, they make their own story of a near-god falling from the sky. The Cormyr article is good, but was in Dragon, not the new setting book. We have yet to see what the book is like, but most good tidbits seem to be saved for the eventual DDI.</p><p></p><p>I hope the OP's original question is answered on the setting being gutted and good or bad. </p><p></p><p>If you are thinking about the setting, read the book when it comes out and decide for yourself. You have the advantage of having no previous ties to the setting, so judge it own it's own merits. </p><p></p><p>and questing gm.. it has been debated a lot over at Candlekeep.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mkhaiwati, post: 4411057, member: 43214"] let me see... 1) they change the pantheon.. many deities are killed for no sane reason, others are nerfed into some subservient role, and others are discovered to always be aspects of others (Sehanine was really Selune, Gond was Moradin, etc) 2) This massive backlash from killing Mystra (again!) destroys the planar structure, kills gods, blows up whole nations for being too magical (the Shining South), yet.... leaves intact Waterdeep and mythals (designer pet projects). 3) They kill many iconic characters (the Chosen, Halaster, Alusair, possibly Mirt and others) yet keep the ones that sell novels (Elminster and Drizzt). 4) the 100 year jump is to allow new players a chance to get into the setting, which nullifies much lore and books from previous editions. Yet, and I cannot produce a post for this, one designer said that previous lore won't be wasted for use with the new edition. Which is it? They are trying to please everyone, yet might end up pleasing no one. 5) Not sure where these "facts" came from, but it has often been mentioned that FR is the most popular setting (where this comes from, I dunno. Novels? RPGs?). If this is the case, why mess with it? I would think they would the setting intact instead of listening to complaints on why people don't play the setting. They have run a real risk of losing many current players in this new Realms, thereby making it a less popular setting. 6) most excerpts from the new setting book have been less than good. The warlock knights of vaasa are a good example. Instead of tying it to the Witch Lord Zhengy with existing lore, they make their own story of a near-god falling from the sky. The Cormyr article is good, but was in Dragon, not the new setting book. We have yet to see what the book is like, but most good tidbits seem to be saved for the eventual DDI. I hope the OP's original question is answered on the setting being gutted and good or bad. If you are thinking about the setting, read the book when it comes out and decide for yourself. You have the advantage of having no previous ties to the setting, so judge it own it's own merits. and questing gm.. it has been debated a lot over at Candlekeep. [/QUOTE]
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