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<blockquote data-quote="Draksila" data-source="post: 4413149" data-attributes="member: 31376"><p>ProfessorCirno, I hate to point this out, but what you're really saying is that everything <em>you</em> hated about FR is still there. In my and my friends' years DMing, when giving players input into the starting area of a campaign we were going to run, I've found that at least 80% of the time the players end up accidentally describing Shadowdale or Waterdeep. Not by name, but by features they want in their starting city or rural area.</p><p> </p><p>"Popular inn run by motherly host? Check. Ruined castle nearby to explore? Check. Nearby forest full of dark and shadowy things? Check. Ultra-wise sage and historian who can provide tips and clues? Che... dangit, we just did Shadowdale again, didn't we?"</p><p> </p><p>Also, as a small nitpick, Tyr is the god of justice. Helm is the god of duty. Torm, my personal favorite FR deity because he's the only one who's not written as occasionally being a dipstick, is the god of duty, loyalty, and honor. Tyr's known for being a bit blind to compassion in his pursuit of justice, and Helm is known for being as emotional as a wall of granite. The two of them killing each other wouldn't surprise me, given the right incentive. What <em>does</em> seem out of character to me is Tyr being interested in courting Tymora, and Tymora being okay with settling down.</p><p> </p><p>I'm a bit worried about what they're doing to Lathander; he was the most popular deity insofar as my players were concerned, and we've seen more clerics and paladins under his banner than anyone else's in over 20 years running the Realms. If they muck up his personality too much, my players might riot. As far as I'm concerned, though, I'm fine so long as Torm's still the grandfatherly protector he has been since they decided to flesh him out. And if he's not, I'll just retcon it so he is. Which might apply for Lathander, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Draksila, post: 4413149, member: 31376"] ProfessorCirno, I hate to point this out, but what you're really saying is that everything [I]you[/I] hated about FR is still there. In my and my friends' years DMing, when giving players input into the starting area of a campaign we were going to run, I've found that at least 80% of the time the players end up accidentally describing Shadowdale or Waterdeep. Not by name, but by features they want in their starting city or rural area. "Popular inn run by motherly host? Check. Ruined castle nearby to explore? Check. Nearby forest full of dark and shadowy things? Check. Ultra-wise sage and historian who can provide tips and clues? Che... dangit, we just did Shadowdale again, didn't we?" Also, as a small nitpick, Tyr is the god of justice. Helm is the god of duty. Torm, my personal favorite FR deity because he's the only one who's not written as occasionally being a dipstick, is the god of duty, loyalty, and honor. Tyr's known for being a bit blind to compassion in his pursuit of justice, and Helm is known for being as emotional as a wall of granite. The two of them killing each other wouldn't surprise me, given the right incentive. What [I]does[/I] seem out of character to me is Tyr being interested in courting Tymora, and Tymora being okay with settling down. I'm a bit worried about what they're doing to Lathander; he was the most popular deity insofar as my players were concerned, and we've seen more clerics and paladins under his banner than anyone else's in over 20 years running the Realms. If they muck up his personality too much, my players might riot. As far as I'm concerned, though, I'm fine so long as Torm's still the grandfatherly protector he has been since they decided to flesh him out. And if he's not, I'll just retcon it so he is. Which might apply for Lathander, too. [/QUOTE]
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