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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dirtypool" data-source="post: 8644235" data-attributes="member: 7033897">I don't know that the Orr report and Reddit engagement really gives anything approaching a clear picture of how PF2e is doing.   The Orr report only measures engagement on a VTT platform that is not the preferred VTT of PF2 players, and contains a HUGE uncategorized group of games that could indeed include a lot of people's non AP PF2 campaigns that were created.Reddit engagement is purely anecdotal, and most discussion about Paizo product - old and new - happens on Paizo's forums.Meanwhile, ICV2 numbers show that PF2 is back in the #2 sales slot and Paizo themselves claim PF2 is selling better at this point in its life cycle than PF1 was in terms of raw numbers.  Which seems perfectly reasonable given how much large the sales pie has grown in the wake of the increasing popularity of 5e.</blockquote>